How Many Mass Shootings Happened on Trump's Watch?

According to Market Realist, there were 1716 mass shootings on Trump's watch.

https://marketrealist.com/p/how-many-mass-shootings-happened-under-trump/

Good Guys Armed?

The massacre of all those students and teachers laid to rest a favorite gun nut talking point.

The "guns in the hands of the good guys" meme got debunked in TX. The armed "good guys" had the shooter out-numbered 19 to 1. They froze.

Gun Reform Proposal -- Rent Them Out

 We should ban gun ownership and go to a gun rental model. That way, they still can bear arms. They  just have to PAY for it; then return the gun to the owner at the end of the day. What's wrong with that?

Parpus Says Trump Is Fascist

1719   PM:   Prapius   [Quote]     -- 10:48am -- Tue, Aug 27, 19 pst

FIRST THINGS FASCISTS DO..IS CONFISCATE GUNS.....................WHAT FASCIST WANT THIS?

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You mean like this?



“Take the guns first, go through due process second.”   - President Donald J Trump



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second



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parpus says ''FIRST'' thing a fascist does is take guns.

Trump say ''Take the guns first....'' 



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

Due Process Is Secondary to Trump

Trump says due process isn't his first concern.  He's relegated it to "second" place.

"President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

Celeste Offers to Shoot Chatter

8568 PM: Celeste [Quote] -- 9:21pm -- Sat, Jun 23, 18 pst

Celeste

Doss: I'd be happy to shoot you in the face.

2018   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 6:47pm -- Tue, Aug 13, 19 pst
Celeste
Doss . . . Got news for you. You're a big fat nothing. You ain't worth the powder to blow you straight to hell.

MwJohnson Plans to Kill "Large Amounts of People"

7735 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] 4:08am -- Fri, Jan 11, 13 PST [iggy]

. . . I would disagree. I have a number of 30 round magazines.....even a 90 (the 15's work best tho). I have them for the purposes of killing large amounts of people . . .  

Celeste Admits Gun Problem

Finally Celeste admits there is a gun problem. We're making progress.

5707 PM: Celeste [Quote] -- 4:19pm -- Sun, Aug 4, 19 pst
Celeste
. . . Doesn't do squat for the gun problem

Civilians as Gun-Toting Vigilantes?

"According to a 2008 RAND Corporation study
evaluating the New York Police Department’s firearm training, between
1998 and 2006, the average hit rate during gunfights was just 18
percent. When suspects did not return fire, police officers hit their
targets 30 percent of the time."



http://nation.time.com/2013/09/16/ready-fire-aim-the-science-behind-police-shooting-bystanders/

Trump Appears to Condone Gun Violence against Immigrants

Trump appears to support the notion of gunning down those who cross the border illegally:

President Donald Trump's team is engaged in damage control after the commander-in-chief appeared to chuckle at — and make light of — a suggestion from one of his supporters that the federal government shoot migrants.

The comment was made as Trump denounced the legal protections currently granted to migrants in the U.S. and argued that his proposed southern border wall was a necessity.

"I mean, when you have 15,000 people marching up, and you have hundreds and hundreds of people, and you have two or three border security people that are brave and great — and don't forget, we don't let them, and we can't let them use weapons. We can't. Other countries do. We can't. I would never do that," Trump said, describing how border patrol agents are not supposed to shoot undocumented migrants.

After the president rhetorically asked, "How do you stop these people?" a member of the audience in Panama City Beach, Florida, responded: "Shoot them!"

Instead of disavowing the comment, Trump chuckled and replied, "Only in the Panhandle you can get away with that statement — only in the Panhandle."

Matt Wolking, the deputy director of communications (rapid response) for Trump, addressed critics of the president's quip on Twitter by including a transcript from the rally that left out the audience member's violent remark.

https://www.salon.com/2019/05/09/donald-trump-chuckles-after-supporter-suggests-migrants-should-be-shot-only-in-the-panhandle/

Right Blames Left for Racism and Gun Violence

3959   PM:   Applejack   [Quote]     -- 8:18am -- Sun, Aug 4, 19 pst
Applejack
People on the right are also against gun violence and racism The idea that they support such things is the left's rhetoric which feeds the crazies
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Here's misty supporting gun violence:

6611 PM: Mistysea [Quote] -- 8:06am -- Sat, Jun 26, 10 pst
Mistysea
Jan Brewer should hire the French Foreign Legion to Arizona. She should order them to shoot to kill, on the spot, anyone - man, woman or child, crossing the border illegally.

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Here's CaG supporting racism:

9749 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 2:39pm -- Mon, Nov 19, 18 pst
Christians are Good
If you're going to play dumb I shan't bother with you further. Racism is a universal trait of all mankind. And it does serve a useful societal purpose . . .

Repeal of the Second?

1699   PM:   Rockytop   [Quote]     -- 4:00pm -- Sat, Aug 3, 19 pst
Rockytop
I would support a repeal of the 2A...

Who Would Threaten a Child?

6655 PM: Jajski [Quote] -- 12:26pm -- Thu, Jul 4, 19 pst
Jajski
what kind of person (the left, of course) threatens a child. or any person, for that matter.

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This kind.

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6611 PM: Mistysea [Quote] -- 8:06am -- Sat, Jun 26, 10 pst
Mistysea

Jan Brewer should hire the French Foreign Legion to Arizona. She should
order them to shoot to kill, on the spot, anyone - man, woman or child,
crossing the border illegally.

CAG on Immigration -- Nonsense

2214   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 7:30am -- Mon, Mar 18, 19 pst

Christians are Good

The fallacy is you want Americans you don't know and don't care about to lose their rights - you are giving away something you don't have the right to give away.

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Like banning abortion; like stripping citizens of their right to vote; like criminalizing marijuana; like....



Wait -- no, that's the RIGHT WINGERS' side; not ours.





2227   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 7:32am -- Mon, Mar 18, 19 pst



Christians are Good



maggie, What you advocate is a form of theft, taking something that belongs to others and giving it away to boost your own ego.

''Look at me, aren't I generous giving away things that belong to others?''



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2245   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 7:36am -- Mon, Mar 18, 19 pst

Christians are Good

You advocate giving something that doesn't belong to you and at no personal cost.

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Wrong. Advocating asylum isn't giving away anything at at all.



That's why you are dodging my questions about it.  What do you give up when a terrified refugee is granted asylum in the US?

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2257 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 7:38am -- Mon, Mar 18, 19 pst

Christians are Good

maggie, As I said if you want a foreign stranger to gain permanent entry then take up the burden of surrendering your privacy and your property.

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Only if you give up YOUR privacy and your property in exchange for free access to guns. Deal? 

Everyone Should Be Armed?

1861   PM:   Polinc   [Quote]     -- 3:20pm -- Thu, Jun 28, 18 pst

POLINC

...All the more reason that everyone should be armed, Doss....

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Even passengers on commercial airlines? Drunks at bars? Prisoners on death row?  School children?  Patients in mental institutions?  Drug addicts?  Psychopaths?  Murderers?



Are you sure?

Trump Prefers Confiscating Guns

 1430   PM:   Prapius   [Quote]     -- 6:27am -- Tue, May 29, 18 pst

AND HATERS CONFISCATE GUNS





"I like taking guns away early . . . Take the guns first, go through due process second."  - Donald Trump; February, 2018



https://is.gd/LWdBDv

Guns Make Sunnybelle "Very Very Hot"

In wingerville, it's considered "normal" to be sexually aroused by guns.

6867 PM: Sunnybelle [Quote] -- 11:01am -- Mon, Apr 2, 18 pst
Sunnybelle
I have to admit...the first time hubby showed me his gun collection it made me very very hot.

Founding Fathers and Gun Control

Our founding fathers had no objection to regulating guns.  Here are five types of gun laws they supported. From Saul Cornell at Fordham University:



Registration: "The colonies and then the newly independent states kept track of  . . .  privately owned weapons required for militia service."



Public Carrying of Fire Arms:  "The American Revolution did not sweep away English common law. In fact,
most colonies adopted common law as it had been interpreted in the
colonies prior to independence, including the ban on traveling armed in
populated areas."



Stand Your Ground: "Under traditional English common law, one had a duty to retreat, not
stand your ground. Deadly force was justified only if no other
alternative was possible. One had to retreat, until retreat was no
longer possible, before killing an aggressor."



Safe Storage: "Guns had to be kept unloaded, a practice that made sense since the black
powder used in firearms in this period was corrosive. Loaded guns also
posed a particular hazard in cases of fire because they might discharge
and injure innocent bystanders and those fighting fires."



Loyalty Oaths: "In fact, the Founders engaged in large-scale disarmament of the civilian
population during the American Revolution. The right to bear arms was
conditional on swearing a loyalty oath to the government. Individuals
who refused to swear such an oath were disarmed."





http://theconversation.com/five-types-of-gun-laws-the-founding-fathers-loved-85364. 




http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-five-types-of-gun-laws-the-founding-fathers-loved-85364-20171016-story.html

Johnson's Gun Nuttiness

2277 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 2:52pm -- Sat, Apr 7, 18 pst
Mwjohnson
I have no problem with deaths, rather than lose a freedom.

Gun Control Is Constitutional

Is gun control constitutional?  Of course, it is.



"The Court cannot take judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long has today any reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, and therefore cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees to the citizen the right to keep and bear such a weapon."





https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174





http://fordhamlawreview.org/issues/a-well-regulated-right-the-early-american-origins-of-gun-control/