Yes, Grand Jury Testimony IS Made Public

Yes, grand jury testimony IS released to the public  -- at least it is when it comes to Clinton.



"Following is the text of Monica Lewinsky's testimony before independent
counsel Kenneth Starr's grand jury on August 6 and August 20. The
transcripts were among the 3,183 pages of appendices to Starr's report
released on Sept. 21 by the House Judiciary Committee."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/mltestimony.htm

CaG, Hillary, and Endless Investigations

1457 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 12:47pm -- Thu, Feb 21, 19 pst

Christians are Good

And if the police investigated you relentlessly for two years and found the accusation uncorroborated?

Starr vs Mueller: How Do They Compare?

Well, let's look at the time line.



Starr got his FIRST conviction in May of 1996. He'd been on the job since August of 1994 (See Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/timeline.htm ). That's 21 months.





May 17, 2017 :  Mueller appointed as special counsel.



July 27, 2017 : Papadopoulos arrested.



October 5, 2017: Papadopoulos enters guilty plea in federal court ( https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download )



Note, that's LESS than FIVE months from Mueller's appointment until he bagged his first conviction, a felony! The crime Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to was lying about his meeting with one agent he believed to have  "substantial connections to Russian government officials" and met with yet another agent he ALSO believed to have connections with the Russian government.  ( https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download )



Now let's look at Kenneth Starr's record.



August 5, 1994: Starr is appointed special Whitewater Prosecutor ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/timeline.htm )



May 26, 1996: Starr gets his FIRST conviction, and it has NOTHING to do with Whitewater

( https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/timeline2.htm )



That's over TWENTY ONE MONTHS from the time Starr was appointed until he bagged his first conviction of ANY SORT; and it had NOTHING to do with Whitewater!



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It took Mueller less than five months to nail a felon for lying about his meetings with agents he believed to be connected to the Russian government (Russian collusion).



It took Starr TWENTY ONE months to nail someone on charges that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Clintons or with the Whitewater land deal.



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One lead investigator nails his first felony conviction in less than 6 months of being on the job.

Another lead investigator takes TWENTY-ONE months to get his first conviction of ANY SORT.

Riddle: Guess which one the right wingers say should hurry up?  



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Here's another scenario: 



One investigator, looking into a real estate transaction, busts someone for a cable television deal.



Another investigator looking into collusion with a foreign adversary busts a suspect (and gets a felony conviction)  for lying to the feds about his collusion with someone the suspect believes to be an operative representing that foreign government.



Riddle:  Guess which one the right wingers accuse of going "outside his scope"?

If Mueller Needs More Time, there IS Precedent

5259   PM:   Dudley   [Quote]     -- 7:33am -- Tue, May 15, 18 pst
Dudley
Delta, and Mueller asked for more time with the Russians, think about
that.



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Yes, we remember how you guys HOWLED when Starr asked or more time.



"Starr Gets 6-Month Extension of Whitewater Grand Jury" - November 01, 1997 - Associated Press



"Starr asked U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright to let the special grand jury stay on the job until May 7, 1998--two years after its first meeting." 



http://articles.latimes.com/1997/nov/01/news/mn-49018



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"When Mr. Starr began his investigation of Bill and Hillary Clinton 3-1/2 years ago, the singular focus was on potentially illegal transactions related to a 1980s Arkansas real-estate deal.

"Since then, his $34 million probe has expanded three times to include the suicide of Clinton aide Vince Foster, the use of FBI files, and the firing of White House travel office employees."



https://www.csmonitor.com/1998/0123/012398.us.us.5.html

No Whitewater Charges

The charges against Jim Guy Tucker had nothing to do with Clinton.


The WAPO reported it this way: ''The charges brought yesterday had no
connection to Clinton and the White House immediately pointed that
out.'' 



https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/06/08/ark-governor-indicted-in-probe-of-whitewater/37be30a6-51a2-4467-ad3b-80431b4db617/?utm_term=.831c2cd54422

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 Then, there is this from the NYTIMES:



"The indictment was sought by Kenneth W. Starr, the Whitewater independent counsel, but does not involve President Clinton or Mr. Clinton's former business partner, James B. McDougal." 



http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/08/us/us-indicts-arkansas-governor-on-fraud-charges.html