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Another Times Smear Unravels  









Once more, we catch the Times smearing Hillary.

parpus throws Victor under the bus. *S*

6109   PM:   Prapius   [Quote]     -- 5:49am -- Sat, Jul 25, 15 pst
AFTER THE INFO GOT TO HILLARY..IT WAS ALL MARKED AS CLASSIFIED...

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Hillary Opposes Voter Suppression  

How can anyone disagree with HIllary   on this one?


Hillary's plans for ensuring every citizen can vote without barriers—in 72 seconds:
Posted by Hillary Clinton on Friday, June 5, 2015




Mystified

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Victor Says Clinton Was Convicted  

We can't make up this shit.




Mystified-Small




Mystified - Full




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Twerking  


Someone we DON'T want to see twerking - Celeste









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Cruz-Telepromter?  


Ted Cruz in fact DOES use a teleprompter.

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Senate assholes -- 47 of them



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Hillary Did What?  

256 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:30pm -- Tue, Mar 10, 15 pst
Hillary is pretty much a hawk - witness her leading role in the military intervention in Libya in 2011, and her support for the Iraq War in 2002.

Now for the truth.

Senator Clinton speaks out AGAINST invading Iraq.

"So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option." - Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq - As Delivered




Hillary Did What?


453 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 10:06pm -- Tue, Mar 10, 15 pst
Dosset, So next time you try to excuse Hillary's poor judgement in war making while you eviscerate the GOP for their poor judgement, get the facts straight. Hillary stood at the front of the line yelling 'attack' just as loudly as the others.

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Now for the truth:

"So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option." - Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq - As Delivered


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Hillary and Her Rebranding Experts  

70   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:58pm -- Tue, Mar 10, 15 pst
[Hillary]  has hired marketing experts in the past few months whose expertise is just that - re-branding.

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9/11 Was Not Murder  


98 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 1:42pm -- Mon, Mar 9, 15 pst
Collateral damage is no way defined as murder. 

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So when bin Laden brought down the WTC, the people killed in that attack were not murdered.

We knew we could get you to defend bin Laden. 



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Smear Debunked  

We TOLD you guys the minute we saw the NYTIMES report that the story was ''fishy.''

Within minutes other reporters were looking at the Times smear and finding a HUGE problem.

Why did the Times refer to the regulations they hint Clinton violated as ''new'' and not by something more specific like, ''regulations implemented on [thus and such specific date]?''

Reporters recognized the ploy for what it is --- the Times withheld the date of the implementation of the regs for a reason.

Turns out -- the reason the Times didn't tell you about the date is that the regs didn't become effective until AFTER Clinton left the State Dept.

The Times' hit piece smelled fishy right away; was dying before the late edition hit the all-night news stands; and certainly smelled to high heaven and was certifiably dead before the morning edition hit the door steps, streets, and news stands - one of the quickest debunkings of a rightwinger smear in modern history.


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Fishing License in China  

It probably happened like this.

Ray to Clinton: Look, I ain't got anything on you, but I'll spend 20 billion just to make your life uncomfortable if I want to. On the other hand, if you'll pretend to accept a ''plea bargain'' so I can save face, I'll give up the bogus witch hunt now.

Clinton to Ray: You mean, all I have to do to get you to stop harassing me on this bogus shit, is give up my fishing license in China? I  mean, like I really was going to ever go fishing in China?  Hell, yeah, you  gotta deal.

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Permanent Ban?  

2402 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 10:50am -- Fri, Mar 6, 15 pst

This room would be more interesting if several people who come here weren't allowed - permanently. It would make conversation among the vast majority more pleasant.

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DOJ Report?  

Pale:  You meant in some other statement from DOJ?  Let's see it.

6877   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 2:49pm -- Thu, Mar 5, 15 pst
Palerider
So the DoJ outlined the bias of the Democrats in Ferguson . . .

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Chat Genius  

Private message from   Chiefconserv to Doss
4493   PM:   Chiefconserv   [Quote]     -- 9:23am -- Thu, Mar 5, 15 pst

Chief Conservative
I really think you are a fucking chat genius

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USSC Prediction  

4109   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 8:43am -- Thu, Mar 5, 15 pst

doss
I predict a 6-3 ruling in favor of allowing the ACA to stand as intended by Congress.

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"New" regulations?  

Did you see this from the Daily Beast regarding the faux scandal the NYTIMES tried to drum up on Sec. Clinton?

''But let’s hold on a second. A close reading of the Times piece reveals one potential big hole in the case . . . You have to know how to read these things, and if you do know how to read them, there’s a big question here .....''

The article says that there were “new” regulations that Clinton was supposed to abide by.''

''New''? Hmmmmm.......... How new? For some reason the NYTIMES LEFT OUT that part.

Why? You ask?

Because they were SO fucking new, they didn't take effect until OVER A YEAR after she'd left govt service.

SO much for THAT smear, eh?

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9363   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 5:00pm -- Wed, Mar 4, 15 pst

doss
Vagne: You can't see CaG's remark about women?

2286 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 2:20pm -- Tue, Mar 3, 15 pst
It is what most women do most of the time when things don't go their way. The get all icky inside and bawl. 




9373   PM:   Vagne   [Quote]     -- 5:01pm -- Wed, Mar 4, 15 pst

Vagne
Doss: The get all icky inside and bawl.

I don't let my panties get in a wad about this....they do what they
do...

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No Email in 2001  

6271   PM:   Toy911   [Quote]     -- 6:50am -- Wed, Mar 4, 15 pst

  ''The Enemy Of Your Enemy Is Your Enemy''
Doss:



because emails were not widely used then fool
[ quoted: Doss - NYTIMES breathlessly reported on Sec. Clinton`s use of private emails ---- but waited |TWENTY-TWO PARAGRAPHS| to disclose that Bush`s secretary of State did too.Why not the 2nd, 3rd, or 10th paragraph? Why the 22nd? ]

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They didn't use emails much back in the first decade of the 21st century?  Toy?  Are you going to stick with that story? *S*

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Little Girls Deserve Better  

4609   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 8:56pm -- Tue, Mar 3, 15 pst

doss
Unsoma: What is sad is that it reveals their attitude toward women to be one that we'd hope with all hope wouldn't be the way our daughters and grand daughters are viewed. It's disrespectful, cruel and mean.

And the little girls of this world deserve better.

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The Deal Sucks; but I Don't Know What Sucks About It  

Right winger: ''By God, this is a RAW DEAL!''

Progressive: ''What's raw about it?''

Rightwinger: ''It sucks!''

Progressive: ''What sucks about it?''

Rightwinger: ''Everything!''

Progressive: So what specifically does the proposal cover?''

Right wigner: '' Hell if I know!''

Progressive: ''But you know it sucks?''

Right wigner: ''Hell yeah! It sucks.''

Progressive: ''Even the first article of the agreement?''

Right winger: ''Yeah, it sucks for sure.''

Progressive: ''What issue does it cover?''

''Right winger: ''I don't know. -- But it SUCKS!'

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Politifact? Don't Believe Them  

From Forbes Magazine:

"Indeed, the entire enterprise of PolitiFact is darkened by the dishonesty at its very core."

"PolitiFact is an embarrassment to the world of fact-checking..."

Politifact's new-found celebrity status "owes itself in part to the group’s lazy and inaccurate reporting on Obamacare."

"If PolitiFact were intellectually honest, it would acknowledge that it was undeserving of that [Pulitzer] prize . . . [and would] reflect on how its work has gone astray..."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/12/27/in-2008-politifacts-2013-lie-of-the-year-that-you-could-keep-your-health-plan-under-obamacare-it-rated-true/


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You Can Keep Your Plan  

"When I say if you have your plan and you like it, . . . if you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don’t have to change plans, what I’m saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform." - President Obama - June, 2009 

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Taxes Are Down under Obama  







http://www.csmonitor.com/

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USSC to Uphold ACA  

8950   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 11:38am -- Mon, Mar 2, 15 pst

doss
The USSC will ''punt'' on the ACA suit.


''As a rule, Supreme Court justices are reluctant to invalidate a law on which many relied. It will be far easier for the justices to enforce the law's existing language if they know there is a viable alternative that can be enacted by both houses of Congress and signed by the president within a week of their ruling,'' conservative law professor and litigator Randy Barnett wrote in a December op-ed for USA Today.''

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It Isn't Wrong to Lie?  

8773   PM:   Victor   [Quote]     -- 11:03am -- Mon, Mar 2, 15 pst
Victor
Lying is not a sin.

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Did They Call Him a "Nigger"?  


6580   PM:   Rwrichard   [Quote]     -- 7:23pm -- Thu, Jan 9, 14 pst
Right Wing Richard
Saorise, at least I am not worthless Nigger running the country into the ground

____________________


''You start out in 1954 by saying, 'nigger, nigger, nigger.' By 1968 you can't say 'nigger.' . . . that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, state's rights, and all that stuff... all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites.'' -- Lee Atwater, on Nixon's ''Southern Strategy.''


__________________


"Oh, yes, this is a wonderful govment, wonderful. Why, looky here. There was a . . .  nigger there . . .  a mulatter, most as white as a white man. He had the whitest shirt on you ever see, too, and the shiniest hat; and there ain't a man in that town that's got as fine clothes as what he had  .  .  . They said he was a p'fessor in a college, and could talk all kinds of languages, and knowed everything. And that ain't the wust. They said he could VOTE when he was at home. Well, that let me out. Thinks I, what is the country a-coming to? It was 'lection day, and I was just about to go and vote myself if I warn't too drunk to get there; but when they told me there was a State in this country where they'd let that nigger vote, I drawed out. I says I'll never vote agin."

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5432 PM: Prapius [Quote] -- 12:58pm -- Mon, Oct 28, 13 PST
OBAMA..THE LAZIEST NIGGER EVER....

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6252 PM: Prapius [Quote] 4:31am -- Fri, Aug 31, 12 PST [iggy]
....OBAMA HAS A NIGGER BUDGET

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7881   PM:   Prapius   [Quote]       5:46am -- Fri, Mar 9, 12 PST   [iggy]
IF YOU LIKE NIGGERS ON WELFARE..VOTE FOR OBAMA

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4629 PM: Luvy --6:34pm --Wed, Apr 4, 07 pst
Luvy
Absolute didn't notice the nigger . . .

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5675   PM:   Prapius   [Quote]       5:26am -- Sun, Nov 18, 12 PST   [iggy]
ASK NATCHEZ HOW MANY TOP EARNERS PAID TAXES IN 1950..ZERO PAID
YES...NATCHEZ'S WIFE'S BREATH DOES SMELL LIKE NIGGER COCK

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9578     PM:     Tut      -- 1:34pm -- Sun, Aug 19, 07 pst
Tut
Doss is SUCH a nigger!

________________________


318   PM:   Johngalt     -- Fri, May 30 3:33pm PST ----- 
Yes. Vote for me! I purloin for you, and I hate NIGGERS!

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Trickle-Down  

Trickle down republicans act as if the rich don't have enough and the poor have too much.

As long as we allow this sort of idiocy to creep into govt policy, we'll have a lot of people on food stamps.

Answer?

Admit that trickle down doesn't work; never vote for a republican again; and join reasonable people in calling for rebuilding our infrastructure.

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Civil Rights Act  

Civil Rights Act was a republican law? Not quite.

More Democrats voted for it than did republicans.

You guys can't claim this landmark legislation as your own.

It's ours.

Just like Medicare, Social Security, Obamacare, Medicaid, and Food Stamps.

We clearly are winning the battle of ideas, and you guys are losing.

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Complaining about Insults?  

2813   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 12:02pm -- Sun, Mar 1, 15 pst
Liberals claim education, then in comes someone like Namvet with his profanity, insults, denials of personal responsibility, and fifth grade education and sophistication. 

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Christians: Likening namvet to a 5th grader is itself an insult --- which you managed to include in a complaint about insults.

Get out a dictionary, and look up the word ''hypocrisy.''

Learn from it, and try not to let this happen again. 

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JV? No, He Didn't Say ISIS Is Like the JV  

Q: You know where this is going, though. Even in the period that you’ve been on vacation in the last couple of weeks, in Iraq, in Syria, of course, in Africa, al-Qaeda is resurgent.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, but, David, I think the analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant. I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.

Q: But that JV team jus[t] took over Fallujah.

THE PRESIDENT: I understand. But when you say took over Fallujah –

Q: And I don’t know for how long.

THE PRESIDENT: But let’s just keep in mind, Fallujah is a profoundly conservative Sunni city in a country that, independent of anything we do, is deeply divided along sectarian lines. And how we think about terrorism has to be defined and specific enough that it doesn’t lead us to think that any horrible actions that take place around the world that are motivated in part by an extremist Islamic ideology is a direct threat to us or something that we have to wade into.

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O'Reilly at the Little Big Horn  



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Intellectual Dishonesty?  

5552   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 10:36am -- Sat, Feb 28, 15 pst
Attack? Hyperbole? Smear? More hyperbole? If you wish to talk to me don't be intellectually dishonest....

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CaG Enjoys "Certain" Questions  

3496   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 10:17pm -- Fri, Feb 27, 15 pst
[ignored: -Imzadi-Namvet-Pandora-Saoirse]
I actually enjoy thoughtful questions. If forces me to think something out.

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Out of Wedlock?  

2518   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 7:29pm -- Fri, Feb 27, 15 pst
So in your opinion the woman ought stand up for herself and satisfy her selfish interests and have a child out of wedlock....

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Lost Emails?  

Lost emails? Try 22 MILLIONS of them!

''As you'll recall, millions of Bush White House emails conveniently went missing between 2003 and 2005, including those in the critical days during which the administration formulated its response to Ambassador Joe Wilson and his covert CIA operative wife, Valerie Plame. In July 2007, Darrell Issa accused Plame of perjury. Then, in February 2008, Issa turned IT expert and brushed off the email imbroglio as merely a software problem. '' 



http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/issa-blamed-ibm-software-loss-22-million

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Thanks, Bush - For Enabling ISIS  





Thanks, Bush -- for enabling ISIS.

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Pale Caught Lying Again  

When Pale tells you what someone thinks or says, assume he's lying.

Here is an example of his dishonesty.

First, look at Grrl's statement.

8924 PM: Grrllawyer [Quote] -- 9:09am -- Fri, Feb 27, 15 pst
Grrllawyer
  . . . actually Flynn's comments are expressions of his OPINION which IS partisan in nature [emphasis added]  

Now here's Pale's straw man.

9012 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:22am -- Fri, Feb 27, 15 pst
Palerider
grrl lawyer so facts are partisan in your view [emphasis added]


Pale should be ashamed. But then, he seems incapable of shame.

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Pale Can't Help Himself  

Palerider grrl lawyer yes, why are you posting it is the same question. Nothing ''partisan'' in his comment that Kerry is out of touch with reality, Obama's own DCI said pretty much the same thing. Wrong -- Pale --- the DCI didn't even MENTION Kerry.... Sheesh!

8900 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:05am -- Fri, Feb 27, 15 pst
Palerider
grrl lawyer actually the DCI didn't mention Kerry


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Victor? Complaining about Someone Not Answering?  

8146   PM:   Victor   [Quote]     -- 6:33am -- Fri, Feb 27, 15 pst
Victor
I suppose you don't want to answer....

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Seems to Me  

It seems to many that I'm usually right about things. And from their point of view, that's the way it is.

And the reason it appears that way is because I ordinarily don't stick my neck out by stating things I don't KNOW to be true; nor do I ordinarily make predictions about football games or political races.

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Try to Imagine  

Imagine if six of Obama's aides and associates were convicted of crimes committed while working with him back in the state senate in IL.

Just TRY to fucking imagine. *S*

Now imagine instead, that it's Wisconsin and it's aides and associates who worked with Scott Walker when he was a county executive.


Hahahahahahah

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Black President? Never Again  

6667   PM:   Toy911   [Quote]     -- 8:33pm -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst

Toy 911
Celeste:

im sad to say that Obama killed any chance for another black president for a long time

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The Straw Man in Football  

Typical lame-brained rightwinger sloppy logical fallacy --- the straw man.

No one SAID raising the minimum wage would ''fix poverty.'' Victor is cited with illegal use of a dipshit logical fallacy and is penalized an extra 10 yards for thinking we wouldn't catch him.

6586 PM: Victor [Quote] -- 8:18pm -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
Victor
But, if increasing the minimum wage is a completely painless fix to poverty...then why are we talking about so little?

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Planets Are Warming?  

5717 PM: Polinc [Quote] -- 5:57pm -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
Polinc
All of the other planets, without Man, are warming as well.

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Disabled Vet?  

4073 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 1:42pm -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
I'm a disabled vet, and not from falling down drunk one night. I suppose I think I've earned the right to express an opinion, much as anyone else.

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Employer Prohibitions  

3949 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 1:26pm -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
It depends on who is asking and what I think their intentions are and the specific question. I've answered quite a few question, though not much of recent times - given my employer's prohibitions.

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More Namecalling  

2855 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 11:08am -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
Namvet is an Ass
He's a dope all right.

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Pavolov's Dogs  

CaG: I pushed your button; and like a DOG you started salivating.

You demand to know my ''role.'' You demand to know what I ''did.'' You demand to know this, that, and the other all about ME. To you it's very personal.

Your first post to me today was a personal insult. Then you DEMANDED I tell you personal things about myself.

Son, THAT is YOUR obsession.

Yes, it's creepy; but at the same time it's HILARIOUS the way I can make you guys slobber like dogs.


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MwJohnson's Whopper  

2233 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 9:43am -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
I have never known Christians to reject science nor the theory of evolution.

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Christ vs Evolution  

2258 PM: Dwightvol [Quote] -- 9:45am -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
Dwightvol
MW... in all candor, the claims of Darwin and those of Jesus Christ cannot both be true. I choose Jesus Christ.

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God the Biologist  

1992 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:13am -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
I think Darwin added to man's understanding of God's works in biology.

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CaG? Double-naught Agent?  

1896 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 8:59am -- Thu, Feb 26, 15 pst
My field was intelligence as an agent.

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Rightwinger Science  

Remember ---- our rightwinger friends have told us a square is not a rectangle; trees produce ozone; birds are mammals, the US covers almost all of the northern hemisphere; the North Pole is a land mass; global warming is a hoax; the moon does not rotate on its axis; and the earth is only 6,000 years old.

It's like there is a great big neon sign flashing in the sky saying, "Dumbass Rightwingers! Go to BTP and make 'em die laughing."


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No Point Saving  

8479   PM:   Polinc   [Quote]     -- 7:39pm -- Wed, Feb 25, 15 pst

POLINC
There's no point in saving any longer.

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It's Easy to Cross the Border Illegally (Some say)  

7081 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 2:15pm -- Wed, Feb 25, 15 pst
No. If it wasn't easy to cross and stay in this country illegally they wouldn't try.
[ quoted: Doss - CaG: But if it were ``easy`` as you claim, they wouldn`t die or get caught. ]

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Bush Debacle  

6086 PM: Labrown [Quote] -- 10:40am -- Wed, Feb 25, 15 pst
L.A.Brown
Cinders - yea, not like Bush who did the same thing but to make the rich richer rather than to save a failing national infrastructure. It's hard to believe anyone could be as ignorant as you are. 50 straight months of private sector job growth, gas prices down, medical inflation at lowest rate in 50 yrs, record Wall St profits, unemployment below 6%, bin Laden dead, lowest growth in govt spending since Eisenhower, deficit cut in half - clearly it's time to go back to doing everything Bush did?

The last year of Bush's presidency concluded with a TOTAL collapse of US economy, every bank insolvent, every major US auto maker bankrupt, AIG and most insurances companies bankrupt, the entire US financial system in complete cardiac arrest, two MAJOR wars, NEITHER OF WHICH HAD YET BEEN PAID FOR, and all this amidst first hand accounts of pallets full of US Currency being dropped from planes and stolen by Iraqis while they looted the museums and WHILE DOUBLING THE NATIONAL DEBT, NOT to BAIL OUT and revitalize a nation on life support over the obstruction of the most dim witted GOP in the history of the country BUT to give bigger tax refunds to multimillionaires who were not job creators and instead rat holed the money in the Bahamas.


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Miltary Decimated?  

4896 PM: Kaslin [Quote] -- 7:20am -- Wed, Feb 25, 15 pst
Kaslin
US MILITARY DECIMATED UNDER 0BAMA
The military has been reduced by 10%? Not quite. Now for the truth.

Kaslin claims that the military has been cut by 10% under Obama. She's lying, of course. Spending is UP. From Time magazine:

"Pentagon spending since 2001 vastly exceeds that of any decade since 1950, and it is notable that the wars of the 1950s and 1960s (Korea and Vietnam) involved far larger deployments of troops and equipment than the wars since 2001.

— Second, the $612 billion President Obama is seeking for 2014 is a major increase above the average yearly amount ($354 billion) spent during the Cold War (1948-1991). The 2014 level is a $258 billion, or 72% — increase."


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Double Down Back Lash  


"In a related study, Northwestern University researcher Monica Prasad and her colleagues found similar behavior among partisan Republican voters in Illinois and North Carolina. Presented with evidence suggesting that there was no link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks, these voters tended to counterargue and to double-down on their beliefs, rather than change their minds or admit error."

That  is --- when they realized they had embraced a lie, rather than admit it and accept the truth, they DOUBLE-DOWN on the lie.



Researchers identified three obvious lies about Bush's war in Iraq and presented them to their subjects. As we might expect, the Fox viewers were more likely to believe the lies
"Sure enough, Fox viewers led the way in embracing these false assertions, with 80 percent of them believing at least one of the three. Seventy-one percent of CBS viewers also held one of these three false beliefs. For consumers of NPR and PBS, only 23 percent believed one or more of these pro-war myths. Notably, Republicans and supporters of George W. Bush had a much higher level of belief in these falsehoods. So what caused these misperceptions to exist? Republican ideological allegiance likely led to an initial belief in these misrepresentations, but then Fox watching bolstered these views. "  
From "How the Iraq War Launched the Modern Era of Political BS" by Chris Moonie in Mother Jones Magazine; http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/iraq-war-wmds-saddam-political-unreason


"Fox viewers led the way in embracing these false assertions, with 80 percent of them believing at least one of the three. For consumers of both NPR and PBS, in contrast, only 23 percent believed one or more of these pro-war myths."

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One Guy Gets It  

2745   PM:   Labrown   [Quote]     -- 7:33pm -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

L.A.Brown
Yea, that damn Obama really fucked things up but ONLY for those who have forgotten 2008

The last year of Bush's presidency concluded with a TOTAL collapse of US economy, every bank insolvent, every major US auto maker bankrupt, AIG and most insurances companies bankrupt, the entire US financial system in complete cardiac arrest, two MAJOR wars, NEITHER OF WHICH HAD YET BEEN PAID FOR, and all this amidst first hand accounts of pallets full of US Currency being dropped from planes and stolen by Iraqis while they looted the museums and WHILE DOUBLING THE NATIONAL DEBT, NOT to BAIL OUT and revitalize a nation on life support over the obstruction of the most dim witted GOP in the history of the country BUT to give bigger tax refunds to multimillionaires who were not job creators and instead rat holed the money in the Bahamas.

TODAY the banks are making loans, home values and portfolio investment values WHICH HAD BEEN CUT IN HALF have had MOST of their value RESTORED.

The economy that was SHRINKING AT A RATE OF 5.5% A YEAR IS NOW GROWING at 4%.

THE DOW has gone from 7,949 when Bush left office to over 16,000+ HAVING MORE THAN DOUBLED.

THE DEFICIT IS LESS THAN HALF of what it was when Bush left office, despite Republican policies that encourage sending jobs offshore, unemployment is down, the wars are getting paid for and UNLIKE THE GOP, this administration is not homophobic, chauvinistic, racist, AND reminiscent of robber barons, Jim Crow and John Wayne.

Whatever Obama's shortcomings, I hope this little reminder helped my right wing friends keep reality in perspective. 


2761   PM:   Labrown   [Quote]     -- 7:35pm -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

L.A.Brown
50 straight months of private sector job growth, gas prices down, medical inflation at lowest rate in 50 yrs, record Wall St profits, unemployment below 6%, bin Laden dead, lowest growth in govt spending since Eisenhower, deficit cut in half - What is left to hate Obama for unless you just hate black folks? LMAO

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Bush Lied?  

698   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 2:53pm -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

The House Drummer
You see, after Brian Williams & Bill O'Reilly. Everyone has become incensed over their party guys.

I just like to point out that they all lie. No doubt even the Great Ronoldo-Maxima might have told a fib or two. I am not aware of any,....but he was a politician afterall.

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Reagan the Crook  

Whenever someone brings up Reagan and paints him as a hero,  I like to cite this little fact from Sleepwalking Through History, by Haynes Johnson: The numbers of Reagan administration officials either indicted or the subject of criminal and ethical investigations reached record proportions in Washington. (pg.388)

That's "record" as in more than anyone else.

By the end of his [Reagan's] term 138 administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. (pg. 184)

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Our Military People Are Unqualified to Work in the Private Sector?  

This is what zajak thinks of most of our military men and women.


256   PM:   Zajak   [Quote]     -- 1:20pm -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst
Zajak
unless of course you don't think federal employees are people..
most are unqualified to work in the private sector = government employees.

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The Real Reason They Want to Cut Federal Spending  

246   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 1:16pm -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst
Spending is Savings!
It is not the same Maggie. Federal spending involves the proliferation of public employee unions, voting block, and power over people.


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MSNBC -- Hit Bottom?  

6531   PM:   Richweb   [Quote]     -- 12:20pm -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst
Richweb--
WHAT ?--NO LEFTIST wants to defend Keith Olberman---when you get fired
at MSNBC--you have hit bottom

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Name-Calling?  

6012   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 9:18am -- Tue, Aug 6, 13 PST
Mwjohnson
I don't even give it a thought . . . it's just politics. Some folks must attempt to insult folks they disagree with. .  .



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You mean like this?

5930   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 11:11am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst
I think that says a lot about us as a people, electing a scumbag like Bill Clinton. 

9133 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 9:23am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
. . . You don't think name-calling is hateful . . . ? 

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Pelosi ? Speaker when Daddy Bush Was President?  


4860   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 7:45am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

doss
Richweb: Here is another example of how the Bush's do ''business.''

A friend of Jeb's borrowed $4.5 MILLION from the bank; putting up only his good word as collateral.

On that SAME DAY, that friend then loaned $4.5 MILLION to Jeb for him to purchase a building --- that building being the collateral.

Then, they ALL defaulted on their loans and only had to pay back $500k of the $4.5 MILLIONS they had borrowed; AND (and this is a real kicker.) They got to KEEP their collateral.

Sweet, eh?

__________________________________

Now watch the way Weedhopper gets it all mixed up.

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4847   PM:   Weedhopper   [Quote]     -- 7:42am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

He hears the silence howling, catches angels as they fall
Too bad Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House, at the time, did nothing about it

[ quoted: Doss - Richweb: Here is an example of how the Bush`s do ``business.``Neil arranged to loan some friends $132 million dollars. Then in turn ``loaned`` Neil $100,000; then turned around and ``forgave`` the loan. But it gets better; they also set up Neil i


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Problem -- Pelosi served in the House; not in the executive branch. Congress MAKES laws; it doesn't enforce them; that's up the executive branch.

Problem --- Pelosi did not become Speaker until 2007. The Silverado scandal didn't really hit the news until 1990.

Later, Weed claims that Pelosi could have IMPEACHED the president.

Problem: She'd never be able to convince the House to impeach Dubya for what Neil did back in 1990. It just wouldn't fly. 

4878   PM:   Weedhopper   [Quote]     -- 7:47am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

He hears the silence howling, catches angels as they fall
Doss - Who ever told you that the president is above the law never heard about impeachment, obviously...they must be really old and stupid


[Quote] Victor - You counting each election? [Unquote]
[ quoted: Doss - Weed: Whoever told you that the Speaker of the House is a part of the executive branch played a cruel joke on you. Congress can only make laws. It can`t enforce them. ]

_______________________________________
Problem:  Neil Bush wasn't president. 


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More trouble from Weed.

5028   PM:   Weedhopper   [Quote]     -- 8:15am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

He hears the silence howling, catches angels as they fall
Too bad Nancy Pelosi, thespeaker of the House, at the time, did nothing about it


Poor Doss forgets that the S&L's didn't collapse until 17 years later...right after Nancy Pelosi became speaker of the house

It's nice that Doss proves he LIED aboiut my post  


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The  "S&L's didn't collapse until 17 years later"?  You mean in 2007?  Weed, get a grip, son. 

Stick with facts; not with your revised history.

From Daily Finance:  "While most of us were alive 20 years ago, peoples' memories of the savings and loan crisis of the early 1990s have faded. But more than 1,000 so-called savings & loans -- banks specifically set up to lend out their deposits to people buying houses -- failed in the late 1980s and early 1990s due to a change in regulation that permitted S&Ls to take big risks. Bailing them out ultimately cost the federal government $220 billion."

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/07/03/financial-meltdown-vs-savings-loan-crisis-recession/

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Problem: After Weed claimed Pelosi was Speaker of the House in 1990, I corrected him. Then, he  argued that he never claimed Pelosi was Speaker at that time.

5015   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 8:13am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

doss
4991 PM: Weedhopper [Quote] -- 8:09am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst

He hears the silence howling, catches angels as they fall
doss

Weed: Why did you earlier say Pelosi was Speaker of the House in 1990

I didn't...but it's OK that you lie


Oh, yes, you did. *S* And I don't lie. You said she was Speaker ''at the time.''

4847 PM: Weedhopper [Quote] -- 7:42am -- Tue, Feb 24, 15 pst
He hears the silence howling, catches angels as they fall
Too bad Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House, at the time, did nothing about it

[ quoted: Doss - Richweb: Here is an example of how the Bushs do business.Neil arranged to loan some friends $132 million dollars. Then in turn loaned` Neil $100,000; then turned around and ``forgave`` the loan. But it gets better; they also set up Neil i ] 


From the original post, here's the part Weed partially quoted.Notice, there is NO mention. ZERO mention of Dubya.


Richweb: Here is an example of how the Bushs do business.Neil arranged to loan some friends $132 million dollars. Then in turn loaned Neil $100,000; then turned around and ``forgave`` the loan. But it gets better; they also set up Neil in a deal for him to receive  $550,000 in "salary" in addition to the $100,000 they "loaned" him; then told him he didn't have to pay back.

When the shit finally DID hit the fan, Neil had to pay back on $50,000.  Sweet deal, eh?

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Do the Right Thing  

The GOP simply has no good options to use against Obama. He's doing the right thing; and it's just hard to find a good way to fight the right thing.

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Bush Never Had to Do Physical Labor  

"Seven months after he signed the death warrant on ergonomics regulations, President Bush, who has never held a job involving physical labor, appointed Eugene Scalia solicitor of labor."

Over 180 federal laws to "protect the worker, but there's a catch. The worker can't hire a lawyer to enforce them."  They had to count on Anton Scalia's son to look out for their interests. Bush to downtrodden workers: "meet your lawyer - Gene Scalia."

From "Bushwacked: Life in George Bush's America" by Molly Ivins and  Lou Dubose. Random House, NY, 2005; pg. 68

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Yes, but not from Bush War Hawks  

I don't know about you guys. But....

When it comes to matter of spirituality, scripture, salvation, redemption, grace, and interpretation of the utterings of the Holy Spirit, I'll be damned if I'm going to listen to the same bunch of clowns who say Bush didn't lie us into Iraq.

Let's just say I have no faith whatsoever in your judgment.

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Zombies - A New Thing?  

9727 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 1:09pm -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst

American Jedi
Zombie movies are in because the folks that were in High-School when they became Popular are now adults, and reeeeeeeally like them/.




Damn, Johnson's apparently much older than I thought!


White Zombie - 1932
Revolt of the Zombies - 1936
The Devil's Daughter - 1939
King of the Zombies - 1941
Bowerie Midnight - 1942
I Walked with a Zombie - 1943
Revenge of the Zombies - 1943

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Personal Attacks? Vogue?  

9100   PM:   Raccoon   [Quote]     -- 11:38am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst
Raccoon
...sadly...pradung actually believes the shit he posts
"pradung"?

Oh my -- there is a reason for such name-calling.

4767 PM: Mistysea -- Tue, May 25 1:19pm PST -----
Mistysea
Personal attacks are reflective of a poor upbringing.....IMHO. Some think it's acceptable - probably think it's vogue.

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Scooter Libby Cleared?  

Snap: Scooter Libby was a special assistant to President George Bush. (Right wingers will deny this too. *S*); he helped disclose the identity of a secret CIA agent for political purposes; and was then caught in the cover up of the crime.

At first the rightwingers claimed he'd done nothing wrong; then they claimed there'd be no idictments; then they claimed there'd be no conviction.

Then, after he was convicted, Fox claimed he'd been cleared.

It's what passes for ''journalism'' in the US.

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Bring up Clinton?  

8476 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:43am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst Palerider Bill Clinton, the.champion of woman's rights.

4803 PM: Marta8point5 -- Sat, Apr 8 6:19am pst Marta8point5(This week's lament: Bush leaked!) They can't stop talking about Clinton because they are out of ideas. 

9890 PM: Luvy -- Tue, Dec 28 5:34am PST Luvy You bring up Clinton when you lose the argument.  

1900 PM: Mistysea -- Sat, May 22 5:48am PST ----- Mistysea When [they] can't defend their arguments they try to change the topic to Billy Jeff Clinton.

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Send Others?  

8414 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:30am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst
Palerider
Gurjar pay attention, the subjects at hand were forcing OTHERS to be suicide bombers
Like when you were willing to send OTHERS to die over WMDs that didn't exist.

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Don't Tell Me What I Think  

8339 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:15am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst
Palerider
as a woman, LadyS assumes she's a victim but pretends it's my fault she thinks so poorly of herself


Now check out this: 4952 PM: Palerider --Thu, Jun 30 11:35am PST -----
PaleRider
..ahh..now you propose to tell me what I think eh?

2968 PM: Palerider --Mon, Jun 21 10:42am PST ----- PaleRider . . . quit trying to tell me what I think

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Rightwingers Are Pronoun-challenged  

8322 PM: Stockticker [Quote] -- 9:13am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst
'Seven-year-old girl' kills herself and five others in Nigeria suicide bombing

DAMN...if ONLY we could have found him a JOB!!!!
8322 PM: Stockticker [Quote] -- 9:13am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst
'Seven-year-old girl' kills herself and five others in Nigeria suicide bombing

DAMN...if ONLY we could have found him a JOB!!!!

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War on Women Is a Myth?  

8285 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:08am -- Mon, Feb 23, 15 pst
Palerider
''War on women'' They so love their bumper sticker myths

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Even Whiter?  

4818   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 5:22pm -- Sun, Feb 22, 15 pst
Celeste
Scout: My world will get even whiter if I have anything to do with it.

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Weed Admits to Lying  

Weed: So you lied on purpose, eh?

I thought it was a typo. My mistake.


3294   PM:   Weedhopper   [Quote]     -- 1:45pm -- Sun, Feb 22, 15 pst
. . . I did no such thing...I was admitting that I had imitated YOU and LIED on purpose.

______________________________

You got to hand it to Misty, Weed, and Pale.

At least they admit that they lie on purpose.  


 

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Pale Says Dwight Should Change Handle in Honor of BigBenn  

3111   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 1:02pm -- Sun, Feb 22, 15 pst
Palerider
Dwight I've mentioned the Benn parallel a number of times

Maybe change the handle, Dwight Benn Bigamus

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MwJohnson Doesn't Trust Anyone on TV  

5358   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 11:55am -- Sat, Feb 21, 15 pst
I don't trust many people. None of them are on TV.
I'll remind Johnson of this when the GOP finally decides which lying piece of shit they're going to run for president in 2016.

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Low Wage - Hard Work  


We once sent a UAW time and motion analyst in to watch a minimum wage convenience store clerk for 2 hours.

He came out shaking his head.

He said there isn't a job in that entire auto manufacturing plant that requires anyone work half as hard, fast, and consistently as that clerk's job required.

Republians have been arguing for years that paying these low level workers more is bad for business.
Suddenly Walmart sticks it's thumb in their eye by giving raises voluntarily.
So much for the argument that wage hikes are bad for business.


1764 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:49pm -- Fri, Feb 20, 15 pst
Hanging up clothes or checking out a customer is 'hard work,' for some. For the rest it is hardly working.



1736   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 9:44pm -- Fri, Feb 20, 15 pst
Celeste
$15 an hour for dragging merchandise thru a scanner or for flipping burgers?
Yeah, I'd say that's free money . . .





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For It Before He Was Against It  

525 PM: Intrepid [Quote] -- 5:59pm -- Fri, Feb 20, 15 pst
Intrepid
Tina: The problem I have with it is that it is the government mandating the kids do something that parents should be having them do anyways. There never any censure or anything on the parents. I've read weepy articles this winter about ''kids go without meals on snow days''. For real?! Take those kids out of those homes!


Intrepid's complaint is that the community service work is work that the children should be doing ANYWAY --- so --- he's against them doing it.

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How to Answer Questions  

Toy: Just be a man and say, ''Dosset. Are you kidding me? No one in his right mind believed that horse shit. Who the fuck did Bush think he was fooling? Of COURSE I knew he was lying about not remembering what he did while he was in the Guard.''

Or, say, ''Dosset. Yes, I believed Bush didn't remember what he did in the Guard; because he was a drunk and cocaine addict.''

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Professional Military? Bad Idea?  


7711 PM: Grrllawyer [Quote] -- 10:21am -- Fri, Feb 20, 15 pst
Grrllawyer
I think a draft would be a decent option to explore a ''professional
army'' is a terrible idea in a democracy

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MwJohnson Gets Around  

7888   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 10:46am -- Fri, Feb 20, 15 pst
Gee I am glad semen doesn't taste like chocolate.

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Let Them Eat Cake  

"Americans don't have to speculate about what Ronald Reagan would have done about Syria and Iran. We know what he actually did. That is, after his disastrous intervention in the Lebanese civil war resulted in hundreds of U.S. casualties at the hands of Syria and its proxies, President Reagan turned tail and retreated in humiliation. As for the mullahs in Tehran, Ronald Reagan didn't send a message to Iran, but instead a cake, a bible and American weapons."

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/we-know-what-reagan-would-have-done-about-iran-syria

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Rudy Lying?  

Unsoma: Notice that they're in a pickle.

They can't bring themselves to say whether Rudy lied about his remarks being ''horrible.''

If they ADMIT that his comments were ''horrible'' as he admitted, then they are also admitting that the outrage directed at Rudy is perfectly righteous.

BUT --- If they say Rudy's remarks were NOT horrible, then they're saying he lied.

Either way, they are fucked, and they know it.

It seems a perpetual state for many of them.

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Nonsense? From Whom?  

First, I laid the trap.




5037   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 8:53pm -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst

doss
''Yet we know that this war will not be won by force of arms alone. We must defeat the terrorists on the battlefield and we must also defeat them in the battle of ideas... We must change the conditions that allow terrorists to flourish and recruit . . . To spread the vision of hope the United States is determined to help nations that are struggling with poverty.''

Makes sense to me.

CaG went for the bait.


5041   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:55pm -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst

[ignored: -Imzadi-Namvet-Pandora]

''Yet we know that this war will not be won by force of arms alone. We must defeat the terrorists on the battlefield and we must also defeat them in the battle of ideas.''

That much of it is correct, which I argued in this chat days before Harf said anything. The rest of it is nonsense. And if you keep repeating the same thing I will end my part of the thread. 



The reason they don't want to discuss it is that they know damned well what she said makes sense.

It made SO MUCH SENSE that Limbaugh changed it to make her sound stupid.

If her real words were stupid, there'd have been no need for the right to fabricate a quote and falsely attributed it to her.

They could have simply used her own words. 

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Nuts  

2701 PM: Mistysea [Quote] -- 1:56pm -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst
Mistysea Obama Says We Must 'Reject Notion That ISIS Represents Islam'

2699 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 1:56pm -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst
I am sure Obama doesn't believe his views are anti-American, he believes he is the new America, The New Fatherland, The New Reich!

2757 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 2:05pm -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst
He does not have much Christian background nor does he come across as a Christian.


Bet he didn't refer to the last book of the Bible as "Revelations" like you did.

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99.9% Supports Terrorism?  

2473 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 1:15pm -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst
Palerider
The administration has floated this absurd idea that 99.9% is all that supports terrorism and associated groups, that's not even true in the US, let alone in the Muslim/Arab/Persian world

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Pale Is Gun Shy  

Veritas: My guess is that Pale fears I'm setting him up for some sort of trap. He's afraid to agree; and he's afraid NOT to agree.

He knows from experience that I often trap him this way --- set up questions for him so that no matter how he answers, he's fucked.

So he's a bit gun shy. *S*

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Comparing Crusades to Today's Terrorism?  

1776 PM: Dudley [Quote] -- 10:57am -- Thu, Feb 19, 15 pst
Dudley
Yeah, and he was criticized for it. Obama compares the acts of radicals today to the Crusades . . .

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Terrorism Linked to Poverty?  

6473   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 5:21pm -- Wed, Feb 18, 15 pst

doss
Which bleeding heart Muslim-commie-liberal spoke this horse shit:

''Yet we know that this war will not be won by force of arms alone. We must defeat the terrorists on the battlefield and we must also defeat them in the battle of ideas... We must change the conditions that allow terrorists to flourish and recruit . . . To spread the vision of hope the United States is determined to help nations that are struggling with poverty.''

NY TIMES (9/14/2005) http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/02/17/right-wing-media-attack-obama-for-tying-terror/202548

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Direct Quote?  

4800 PM: Vagne [Quote] -- 1:48pm -- Wed, Feb 18, 15 pst
Vagne
Here's the direct quote....

arf: Whether it’s lack of opportunity for jobs…
JOBS. WE’RE GOING TO DEFEAT ISIS BY ENSURING THEY HAVE JOBS, YOU GUYS. And to ensure ISIS remains occupied enough to forget their sacred past time of lopping off heads, we must provide unrestricted access to basic human rights like free heath care, and wifi. Probably, anyway. Because at this point, why not?

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Bible Scholar?  


6509   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 5:28pm -- Wed, Feb 18, 15 pst
It is Revelation, and is found at the end of most Bibles.
[ quoted: Doss - CaG: ``We all have our limits of knowledge of any subject...`` Which explains your thinking there is a Book of ``Revelations.`` ]


But, CaG, that's not how you spelled it earlier. *S*

 4794 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 1:46pm -- Wed, Feb 18, 15 pst
Actually end times for Muslims deeply involves Christ (Jesus) returning much similar to Revelations. . . [sic & emphasis added]




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CEO Gallup - Wrong on Labor Force  

“The number of full-time jobs, and that’s what everybody wants, as a percent of the total population, is the lowest it’s ever been… The other thing that is very misleading about that number is the more people that drop out, the better the number gets." - Jim Clifton - Gallup CEO

http://www.infowars.com/gallup-ceo-number-of-full-time-jobs-as-percent-of-population-is-lowest-its-ever-been-video/

No, not everybody wants a full-time job. My 84 year-old mother, for instance; and my brother who retired after working full-time for 3 years.

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MwJohnson Is Hearing Things  

934   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:11am -- Wed, Feb 18, 15 pst
Did everyone hear the State Dept Admin Spokeshole explain that we need
a jobs program for ISIS?


___________________________________________________
 
Redcatcher: It's like a little circle jerk. They gather and repeat to each other over and over the lies they heard on talk radio. It's like a viral infection eating away at public discourse. It's hard to get a word of truth in edgewise when the DeltaMikes, Mistys, Victors, Dinos, Johnsons, and Morons of the right get their lie-orgy going full tilt. 

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Fair and Balanced Talk Radio?  

"Edward Monks, a Eugene, Oregon attorney, calculates that in his city, conservatives enjoy a 4,000-to-zero hour advantage over liberals on the radio. He wrote in the Register-Guard:

“Political opinions expressed on talk radio are approaching the level of uniformity that would normally be achieved only in a totalitarian society. There is nothing fair, balanced or democratic about it.”"

He found that there were more than 4,000 hours per year, programmed for Republican and conservative talk shows, without a single second programmed for a Democratic or liberal perspective.”

From What Liberal Media - The Truth about Bias and the News; by Eric Alterman -- pg. 71; Perseaus Books

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Johnson and Hitler  


2460 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 3:00pm -- Mon, Feb 16, 15 pst
ReDistribution of Wealth -Herr Hitler would be proud of y'all.



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George Will?  

George Will?

The guy whose editor said he'd never developed even an ''elementary sense of journalistic propriety''?

The guy who failed to let his editors know of a purloined copy of Carter's debate preparation materials being in possession of a Will confidant?

Will, the ''journalist'' who helped touch up Reagan's speeches?

Will the guy who came out against a tariff on Japanese luxury cars without informing his audience that his wife was being paid as a registered foreign agent for the Japan Auto Manufacturers Association?

That George Will?

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USSC on Obamacare  

1091 PM: Doss [Quote] -- 10:32am -- Mon, Feb 16, 15 pst
doss
namvet: I expect the USSC to leave ACA intact.


6745   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 8:33am -- Wed, Mar 4, 15 pst

doss
6739 PM: Unsoma [Quote] -- 8:32am -- Wed, Mar 4, 15 pst

Unsoma
---guess the SUPREME COURT has another go at the A C A today--- gawd knows what happens next
THey'll try to figure out a way to smear President Obama -- but leave the law intact.

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Private Room? A Health Care Right?  

jajski has drunk the health care is a right kool-aid.

366 PM: Jajski [Quote] -- 8:43am -- Mon, Feb 16, 15 pst
Jajski
a private room is not luxury, it is a right.

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"Rare Buy Striking Testosterone"  

1853 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 2:10pm -- Sun, Feb 15, 15 pst
You may suffer from some rare buy striking testosterone insecurity complex.

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No Regulations?  

1109 PM: Dino [Quote] -- 11:58am -- Sun, Feb 15, 15 pst
Dino
Vagne, no regulations are needed.... free people shouldn't be regulated.

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Reagan Armed Saddam  

The "the Reagan administration knew full well it was selling materials to Iraq that was being used for the manufacture of chemical weapons, and that Iraq was using such weapons.''

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/04/history-lesson-when-the-united-states-looked-the-other-way-on-chemical-weapons/

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Who Is David Koresh  

9793 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 11:20am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
I am not even sure who David Koresh is, or what he believes.

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A Bit of Skepticism  

9609 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 10:43am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
Nothing wrong with a bit of skepticism.

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Common Card Played?  

9319 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 9:52am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
Palerider
Killing an abortion Dr is such an infrequent event, but always a common card played

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Christians Can't Hate?  

9161 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:29am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
No Christian can hate. It is virtually not possible. To hate is to deny Christ.

9181 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:33am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
. . . Christians don't hate. It is contrary to Christ.

9237 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:40am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
. . . The subject is hatred . . . Hatred is evil, and atheists who harbor it are evil also.

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Name-calling Hypocrisy  

9133 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 9:23am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
. . . You don't think name-calling is hateful . . . ?


You mean like this?
3823 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 7:17pm -- Wed, Jan 28, 15 pst
Mwjohnson
Clinton is such a douchebag

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Fined?  

8802 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 8:14am -- Fri, Feb 13, 15 pst
It's just a fleecing. All my kids now have to get Obamacare so they wont get fined heavier than they were this year.

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Around Many Blocks on Guys?  

4433 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 2:39pm -- Thu, Feb 12, 15 pst
Palerider
Jajski I've been around many blocks in my life on guys, I've seen many big tits caused by Big Macs, none caused by smoking dope

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On the Ball?  

4406 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 2:35pm -- Thu, Feb 12, 15 pst
. . . . my experience is that folks who rely on booze/drugs to relieve their stress aren't THAT much on the ball.

And my experience has been that those who say Bush didn't lie; or that he was a good president really don't have much at all on the ball.

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Recipe for Disaster  

My theory  - - worked out with Callender - - is that the tortured writing by rightwingers happens because they are really not very sharp.

They employ lazy reading; then, employing lazy thinking, they incorrectly digest what they read. To further complicate matters, they then lazily post their ill-conceived and illogical thoughts using sloppy writing skills.

Then, combine that with the fact that they get their news from such unreliable sources as Fox and Limbaugh. Hell, it's a recipe for disaster.

It's a form of intellectual laziness. They don't read avidly; and when they do read, they miscomprehend what they read. Then, because they lack practice in the sort of critical thinking good reading requires, they employ sloppy thinking in evaluating what they thought they read.

It's a recipe for disaster.

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Dudley  

40 PM: Dudley -- 10:27am -- Sun, Feb 11, 07 pst
Dudley
What's more childish is using the old ''fascist'' label.

How about the "worthless piece of shit" label?

788 PM: Dudley -- Sun, Jul 30 12:24pm pst
Dudley
The UN is a worthless piece of shit

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7096 PM: Christians -- 10:26am -- Mon, Feb 11, 08 pst
Christians are Good
[doss: ''I remember when they said she'd never win her senate seat.'']
Nobody I know ever said that.


You don't ''know'' voodoo, jajski, BHL, POL-INC, or BigBenn? Really?

voodoo_chile_at_large : . . . . msg#7030 Fri, Jul 9,[1999] 8:50PM PST
hillary will lose to major owens for the senate seat in NY................. she'll lose big time to him.............

BigBenn : . . . . msg#4409 Thu, Jul 15, [1999] 12:09PM PST
My prediction: Hillary will begin to run, then see that she really isn't making up too much ground, then pull out citing 'family concerns' or something of that sort.

Brutally Handsome Legend (......Legends dont NEED taglines.....): . . . .
msg#4393 Thu, Jul 15,[1999] 12:08PM PST
Hillary will look at those polls.....and she won't run

jajski : . . . . msg#925 Wed, Jul 7, [1999] 7:29AM PST
you heard it here first . . . Hillary will NOT run . . .she just wants the $$$$$

POL-INC : . . . . msg#5530 Mon, Sep 6, [1999] 3:57PM PST When Chillary loses the Senate race, are they gonna stay in New York, or move back to The Incest State of Arkansas?....

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Predictions  

8983 PM: Shutime [Quote] -- 7:34pm -- Wed, Feb 11, 15 pst
CEO: Worthless obamalovers what you gonna do when the welfare turn its' back on you--you will be stranded and not a damn thing you can do--tough shit obama is handing Jeb the Presidency

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Show Me  

3128 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:06pm -- Tue, Feb 10, 15 pst
Show me the data.

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Rational Thought?  

9049 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 11:52am -- Tue, Feb 10, 15 pst
Palerider
dosset maybe Spadjo's statement is better for your understanding, for you to embrace your belief as a ''Christian lay minister'' you abandon rational thought you agree that you've abandoned rational thought?

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"Real" Unemployment?  

From The New Yorker: The ''Labor Department now reckons that the economy has created about three hundred and thirty-six thousand jobs a month, on average, since the end of October. In the past year, job growth has averaged more than two hundred and thirty thousand jobs a month; today there are about 3.2 million more Americans working than there were this time last year. Compared to January of 2013, there are about 5.6 million more jobs.''


Thus the repeated mantra from the right that we should look at the ''real'' unemployment rate. *S*

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/strong-job-figures-leave-republicans-pickle?mbid=social_facebook

A review of some leading republicans and their Twitter activity on the day of the fantastic jobs report revealed:

Rand Paul attacking Loretta Lynch

Scott Walker praising Reagan.

Marco Rubio tweeted about Venezuela.

 Jeb Bush’s was about promoting economic opportunity.

Ted Cruz was going on about the Conservative Political Action Conference.

There was not even ONE mention from any of them about the jobs numbers. *S*

They apparently hadn't gotten their ''real'' unemployment talking points yet.

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