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6733 PM: Celeste [Quote] -- 8:01pm -- Wed, Dec 17, 14 pst
Bob: Yeah but all the connections point to North Korea.


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Cuban-Americans on Normalizing Relations  

From CNN: "A June poll by Florida International University found that more than half of Cuban-Americans surveyed in Miami support an end to the embargo and a solid majority of them also favor restoring diplomatic relations with Havana."

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Bush's Wreck Economies  

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Dwight's Hatred of President Obama  

4715 PM: Dwightvol [Quote] -- 4:02pm -- Wed, Dec 17, 14 pst
Not much doubt now where mypresident's deepest sympathies lie...
Islam and Marxism.

And there is NO DOUBT that Dwight will lie his ass off in a NY instant.

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jajski and the media  

2751 PM: Jajski [Quote] -- 11:22am -- Wed, Dec 17, 14 pst
you will have to find a better news site Crystal. That one is not mainstream media

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TJbob and Friends  

8776 PM: Doss [Quote] -- 6:13pm -- Tue, Dec 16, 14 pst
Tjbob: Nothing gave me the idea you are my friend. You've always been ugly to me; lied about me; and otherwise been a total dickhead toward me.

I thought I'd just kill you with kindness by making you think I thought of you as a friend. *S*

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Blacks Can't Pass the Test?  

4949 PM: Celeste [Quote] -- 7:08am -- Tue, Dec 16, 14 pst
You can sit and argue this all you want but the fact of the matter is that there is a reason why there aren't more blacks on the Ferguson squad and my guess would be that it's because they're not signing up and the few that do have issues and can't pass the test.

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parpus and liddy  

4724 PM: Prapius [Quote] -- 6:32am -- Tue, Dec 16, 14 pst

"Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."

--G. Gordon Liddy, radio show, 8/26/94

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They're All Lying - Including the Cops  

1945   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 4:01pm -- Mon, Dec 15, 14 pst
Ferguson is a joke and everything that's coming out of there is a big fat lie.

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No Interrogation at Abu Gharaib?  

454 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 10:27am -- Mon, Dec 15, 14 pst
No one thought Abu Ghraib was acceptable and it wasn't part of any
enhanced interrogation program, it wasn't even interrogation,

Yes, it was interrogation; and your pal, Victor, says no one was even hurt.


You, again, simply are ignoring the facts.

''Shortly before the physical abuses of Iraqis were photographed in Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad last year, the top U.S. military official in Iraq signed a classified memorandum explicitly calling for interrogators to assume control over the ''lighting, heating . . . food, clothing, and shelter'' of those being questioned there. ''

  - Source - Washington Post

"Two years ago, at Abu Ghraib prison, outside Baghdad, an Iraqi prisoner in Swanner’s custody, Manadel al-Jamadi, died during an interrogation . His head had been covered with a plastic bag, and he was shackled in a crucifixion-like pose that inhibited his ability to breathe; according to forensic pathologists who have examined the case, he asphyxiated."

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We Never Hanged Anyone for Killing Others Either  

428   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 10:21am -- Mon, Dec 15, 14 pst
We didn't hang anyone for waterboarding 

 Pale:  You're wrong as usual.

"The folks at Politifact interviewed R. John Pritchard, the author of The Tokyo War Crimes Trial: The Complete Transcripts of the Proceedings of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East. They also interviewed Yuma Totani, history professor at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas, and consulted the Columbia Journal of Transnational Law, which published a law review article entitled, "Drop by Drop: Forgetting the History of Water Torture in U.S. Courts." Bottom line: Sen. McCain was right in 2007 and National Review Online is wrong today. America did execute Japanese war criminals for waterboarding. "

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Bush and Housing  

''Darrin West could not believe it. The president of the United States
was standing in his living room.

It was June 17, 2002, a day Mr. West recalls as “the highlight of my
life.” Mr. Bush, in Atlanta to unveil a plan to increase the number of
minority homeowners by 5.5 million, was touring Park Place South, a
development of starter homes in a neighborhood once marked by blight
and crime.''

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Imzadi Preaches  

7725   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 1:12am -- Sat, Dec 13, 14 pst

Dosset, it is OK if you believe I have a cold heart. I suspect I have more actual Christian values in the life I lead than all those people in your congregation put together. Believe what you will
You misread me.

I believe in fact that you have a very warm heart. That's not to say that you don't have a coldness toward organized religion. Human beings,ARE, of course capable of embracing many different and sometimes conflicting attitudes at the same time.

It's okay that you feel that way. You are probably VERY justified in doing so.

The point I hoped to make is that some view ''preaching'' as absolutist mouthing of do's and do not's.

In fact, preaching is little more than a public conversation about values. Good preachers tell an engaging story --- IB2B HOOKED you -- admit it. *S* And good preachers invite discussion.

You do it every time you come into this chat room. Believe it or not, you're one helluva good preacher yourself.

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Pale's Stroke  

5834   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 2:45pm -- Fri, Dec 12, 14 pst

Pale is not bothered by the fact that we catch him lying; and that half the room regards him as a lying chickenshit. That's one of the ear marks of a right winger --- they just don't give a fucking shit --- integrity means nothing to them.

So we have to get at them in a sort of black ''psy-op'' way. Trick them into thinking we're blowing a post.

Pale falls for it EVERY FUCKING TIME.

Eventually, I'll toss one of those soft balls, and he'll swing so hard he'll blow his brains out.

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Media Whores --- Warren vs Clinton  

5287   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 1:12pm -- Fri, Dec 12, 14 pst

Mark my words --- later you will deny I ever posted this ---

The media whores will do all in their power to pit Warren against Sec. Clinton between now and primary time 2016.

Mark my words --- later when I remind you of this, many of you will accuse me of lying.

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The Palerina  

Pale: You're still dodging my question.

Did the DCI lie when he said he knows of no useful information that was derived from torturing those detainees?



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Dosset and Recording  

7622   PM:   Raccoon   [Quote]     -- 4:25am -- Sat, Nov 30, 13 PST
Doss can't show that he ever recorded with anyone...much less..Joe Walsh of the Eagles

7644   PM:   Jajski   [Quote]     -- 4:28am -- Sat, Nov 30, 13 PST
actually, Dosset CAN. I have seen the evidence. Enough said.

4210 PM: Elpincheviejo --Tue, Dec 13 11:17am PST ----El
Pinche Viejo
Gents...I can tell you that when it comes to his claims about his contributions to some fairly
prominent albums....dosset ain't lyin! *G*

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Gloppita-Gloppita Machine  

I'm watching a movie that was released 50 years ago. OK --- 50 years is not THAT long ago in the Hollywood scheme of things. But 50 years is a pretty long time in MY scheme of things.

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Indict a Cop? Are You Kidding Me?  

"I know exactly what it takes to get an indictment. I could get one in either case. In fact, I am ready and willing to fly to any town in this country to get an indictment in any case where a police officer kills an unarmed civilian.  It’s just not that hard."

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Dosset's Travel  

I think we may go to Shreveport; then jet over to Hot Springs; a day or two in Conway; then maybe to Pine Bluff; then back to Hot Springs for daughter's wedding; then to West Memphis.
Then we have some motorcycle parts to pick up in Holly Springs.
Then a quick jump to Hernando.
Doe's Place then Payne's.

Then maybe a visit to the tracks.  

Back to Doe's.

The Blues Museum demands we drop by there for more signings. 

Then back to plantation shopping. We're down to just 14 farms. 

More Doe's.

More tracks.

Back to Holly Springs.

Over to Chattanooga.

Then Knoxville.

Over to Nashville; they want me to sit in on some more sessions.


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Obamacare Works  

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720   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 2:19pm -- Thu, Dec 11, 14 pst

How can you POSSIBLY stop Hillary?

Accuse her of murder?

Bin ther dun that....

Accuse her of lying?

Bin ther dun that....

Accuse her of being a lesbian?

Bin ther dun that....

Accuse her of stealing?

Bin ther dun that.....

Accuse her of being cold?

Bin ther dun that..... 

Accuse her of being hot?

Bin ther dun that.....

Accuse her of wearing pant suits?

Bin ther dun that.....

Accuse her of NOT wearing pant suits?

Bin ther dun that.....

Accuse her of caring too much?

Bin ther dun that.....
Accuse her of NOT caring too much?

Bin ther dun that..... 

Accuse her of laughing too much?

Bin ther dun that.....

Accuse her of NOT laughing enough?

Bin ther dun that..... 

Accuse of being meek?

Bin ther dun that.....

Accuse her of being bold?

Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
Accuse her of 
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CIA's Brennan Does the Palerider Shuffle  

We have not concluded that EIT

NPR: "Did the EIT's lead to useful intelligence; or did they not? You said it is unknowable; which is it?"

Brennan: "What I said was that detainees who were subjected to EITs at some point during their confinement subsequently provided information that our experts found to be useful and valuable... and the cause and effect relationship between the application of those EITs and the ultimate provision of information is unknown and unknowable."


So it wasn't the EIT's that produced the information that saved lives; the useful information came later.  OK - Got it.

Andrea Mitchell:  "Do you think the bin Laden case can be attributed in some part to enhanced interrogation techniques  or torture.....?

Brennan: "Intelligence information from the individuals who were subjected to EITs provided information used in that ... again, I'm not going to attribute that to the use of the EITs."

Brennan may as well have come out and admitted it --- the CIA tried torture; and it didn't work --- then later, when they tried more traditional, morally acceptable and approved interrogation techniques, they got some useful information.

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Self Protection Allowances  

3828   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 11:06am -- Wed, Dec 10, 14 pst
Maggie I didn't really ask for someone else's opinion I think they're
fully within the bounds of self protection allowances at the international

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Cowards? Redcatcher  

3471   PM:   Redcatcher   [Quote]     -- 10:08am -- Wed, Dec 10, 14 pst 
Still Serving one should be surprised that cowards favor torture and even summary
executions...grunts see it up close and personal in Nam war...

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No Torture at Abu Gharib?  

3418   PM:   Victor   [Quote]     -- 10:00am -- Wed, Dec 10, 14 pst
Abu Ghraib, but essentially, yes. Another instance in which people
were made uncomfortable, and frightened, and certainly
humiliated...but not otherwise hurt


I asked Victor if no one was hurt, why was it necessary to pack the dead bodies in ice.  Victor won't say.

"Two Iraqi faces that do appear in the photographs are those of dead men. There is the battered face of prisoner No. 153399, and the bloodied body of another prisoner, wrapped in cellophane and packed in ice. There is a photograph of an empty room, splattered with blood."  -

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Politicians - No Substance  

2452   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 7:18am -- Wed, Dec 10, 14 pst
People of substance don't become politicians.

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Babe Loses it  

1729 PM: Babe [Quote] -- 3:51am -- Wed, Dec 10, 14 pst
 How many employees do you have DOss?

1779 PM: Babe [Quote] -- 4:05am -- Wed, Dec 10, 14 pst
 it is none of your fucking business.

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MW Johnson  

3005 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] 6:06am -- Mon, Dec 24, 12 PST [iggy] Happy Christmas! IMZA....I didn't say you were lying, just that your statement is unprovable -and thus has no validity to the topic.

7463 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] 7:49am -- Sat, Dec 22, 12 PST [iggy] Oh, I take that back: when I declared bankruptcy I used a lawyer. He was great guy.

6326 PM: Poorboy [Quote] -- 9:24pm -- Tue, Aug 20, 13 PST Mark (poorboy) bankruptcy is the only time i've ever had to hire a lawyer

1201   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]       6:58am -- Sat, Dec 29, 12 PST   [iggy]
Fuck off Grrl.

1285   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]       7:03am -- Sat, Dec 29, 12 PST   [iggy]
TREP....No, I don't iggy anymore.

1560   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]       7:26am -- Sat, Dec 29, 12 PST   [iggy]
GRRL.....What part of fuck-off don't you understand. Is it the Fuck, or the Off?

7735   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]       4:08am -- Fri, Jan 11, 13 PST   [iggy]
. . . I would disagree. I have a number of 30 round magazines.....even a 90 (the 15's
work best tho). I have them for the purposes of killing large amounts of people, should
the need arise . . .

8808 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] 7:32pm -- Wed, Jan 9, 13 PST [iggy]
I look at the world and I notice it's burning While my guitar gently weeps
So many folks accusing each other of lying anymore......sad.

3005   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 6:23pm -- Mon, Jan 6, 14 pst
. . .  Don't be scared little buckaroo!
7418   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 11:53am -- Sat, Apr 5, 14 pst
As usual you make blanket super generalized statements to insult others.

2659   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]       1:31pm -- Thu, Jan 31, 13 PST   [iggy] Mwjohnson
Funny to watch Libs try & get all scientic, to cover their support of killing children. Reminds me of the Nazis.

2058   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]       5:03pm -- Sun, Mar 17, 13 PST   [iggy]
An example.....sourced please. 

8371 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] 8:17am -- Thu, Feb 14, 13 PST [iggy]
JA....I understand the point he was trying to make, but words mean things. If you cannot formulate & present your argument with the proper words & phrases, you should probably just keep your mouth shut.

7091 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 8:34am -- Sat, Nov 2, 13 PST
Bush didn't lie.

2581   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 7:00pm -- Mon, Jun 10, 13 PST
Gee, I would never befriend a criminal.

4462   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 7:20pm -- Tue, Nov 12, 13 PST
MRS...Agreed, he never supports his opinion.

9624   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 3:14pm -- Mon, Jul 29, 13 PST
I never cite my sources.

4486   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 7:23pm -- Tue, Nov 12, 13 PST
...and then offered no supporting evidence......or even an explanation

2268   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 2:30pm -- Sun, Jun 23, 13 PST
In other words,l offer nothing to the discussion.

7796 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 5:31am -- Wed, Oct 16, 13 PST
That's the problem, Obamacare was passed with dirty tricks, passed by a lame-duck
congress who was kicked out over Obamacare -all against the will of the people.

An absolute fucking lie.
The bill was passed in January, 2010. The election wasn't until November, 2010. MwJohnson doesn't give a shit that we know he was lying.

He will point to no dirty tricks; he ignores that Obama was reelected by the people, one of the central issues being Obamacare; they LOVE it. And we caught Johnson lying about when it was passed. Shame on that lying MWjohnson.

6301   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:42am -- Sun, Oct 13, 13 PST
Over by the water's edge on one knee...
I support grid-lock. Always a big fan.

That swindling two-bit thimble-rigger.

MwJohnson wants to eliminate taxes altogether. This is why sensible people don't take the teabaggers seriously.

8708   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 7:13pm -- Thu, Jul 4, 13 PST
We should have the lowest tax rate for everyone.

7567   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:57pm -- Sun, Jul 7, 13 PST
Porn is simply something to masturbate to.

7451   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:40pm -- Sun, Jul 7, 13 PST
Mainly I like porn because it's fun to see people fucking & sucking.

8837   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 11:02am -- Wed, Jan 1, 14 pst
I do not speak to Prap of Hepcat

6927 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 2:50pm -- Wed, Jun 26, 13 PST
I have spoken with Zandak & Prapius about their racism.

4055   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:16am -- Fri, Oct 11, 13 PST
I have never cited my sources.

2058 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] 5:03pm -- Sun, Mar 17, 13 PST [iggy]
An example.....sourced please.

2386   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 10:59am -- Sun, Jul 21, 13 PST
Never-mind. I can't even have a normal conversation with folks in here anymore . . .

4459 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 3:14pm -- Sun, Jun 26, 11 pst
The responsible way to end a war is to win it!
I am sad & ashamed I never finished High School.

6012   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 9:18am -- Tue, Aug 6, 13 PST
I don't even give it a thought . . . it's just politics. Some folks must attempt to insult folks they disagree
with. .  .

5340   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 1:01pm -- Tue, Jul 30, 13 PST
Making fun of folks' belief is the height of hatred -the most bigotted action one can take upon another.

7116   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 12:33pm -- Tue, Aug 6, 13 PST
. . .  Some folks would rather avoid things than debate them

3817 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 3:38pm -- Wed, Jul 31, 13 PST
Oh, so we move to insulting when we disagree quaint.

7122 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 7:47pm -- Fri, Sep 6, 13 PST
American Jedi
I have no problem with waterboarding.

3492   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 7:15pm -- Fri, Nov 15, 13 PST
I would not agree that we have any kind of widespread institutionalized racism.

9296 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 11:08am -- Sat, Sep 28, 13 PST
Malt liquor omelet with cigarette toast...
McCain is such a hack douche-bag. 

 5006   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 6:42pm -- Mon, Sep 30, 13 PST
.  . . Glen Beck is the male republican version of Rachel Maddow.

5099   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 6:51pm -- Mon, Sep 30, 13 PST
 . . . I have never watched Glen Beck

5115 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 6:52pm -- Mon, Sep 30, 13 PST
SIBER...I think she is clever, smarmy & snarky, and a shill for the left......kind'a like
Beck is for the right.

9752   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 6:02pm -- Tue, Nov 5, 13 PST
DWUGHT....he makes me hot, with all that pottie-mouth talk of his.

9733   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:59pm -- Tue, Nov 5, 13 PST
*sticking my tongue down Watsup's throat*

I always figured MWjohnson was  bit light in the loafers.

3830   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 6:28pm -- Tue, Oct 1, 13 PST
Ahhhh, we have moved on to licking cock now, golly.

2781 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 6:36pm -- Wed, Oct 2, 13 PST
 *fondling Watsup's ample butt*

2797   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 6:37pm -- Wed, Oct 2, 13 PST
WASTUP....You are so cute when you are angry!

9733   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:59pm -- Tue, Nov 5, 13 PST
*sticking my tongue down Watsup's throat*

5287   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:59pm -- Tue, Oct 15, 13 PST
(quoting doss) Mwjohnson says only a ''few'' have preexisting conditions.

I never said this.

Now for the truth.

5266   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 5:57pm -- Tue, Oct 15, 13 PST
for the few who can't be covered because of existing conditions, yes.

"GAO: As many as 112 million adults have pre-existing conditions"

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Witness # 40  

Witness #40

"The cop just stood there dang if that kid didn't start running right at thecop like a football player head down."

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