Monday, January 22, 2018

Guera's "Pax"

1858 PM: Guera [Quote] -- 9:30pm -- Tue, Jun 3, 14 pst
Cor Unum
I truly hate you all..

Celeste on Ignoring Law Breaking

7892   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 7:32pm -- Mon, Jan 22, 18 pst
Wanting to see our laws enforced does not make anyone a lunatic. Turning your back while people break the law is lunacy.

Yet you want to END the Mueller investigation into Trump money laundering, obstruction of justice, espionage, and conspiracy.

Please explain.

Release the Memo

Planoman claimed that the memo came up for a vote on Thursday, which was the 18th.

6353   PM:   Planoman   [Quote]     -- 1:47pm -- Mon, Jan 22, 18 pst
The viewing of the memo came after all Republican members of the House intelligence committee, whose investigators compiled the classified memo, voted Thursday to make it available to all House members. Every Democrat on the committee voted against it.

Yet, an article from Politico updated on 1/20/2018, says it has NOT been put up for a vote. Planoman, how can the Democrats vote "no" in a vote that hasn't been held?

"Nunes hasn’t indicated whether he’ll call for a vote . . . ." (As of January 20, 2018 --- the day AFTER the Thursday Planoman claims there WAS a vote.

This isn't looking good for Planoman's veracity.

The Coming Trump Slump

"Trump's tumultuous presidency is damaging the U.S. economy."

Veritas Hopes for America

4738   PM:   Veritas   [Quote]     -- 7:45am -- Mon, Jan 22, 18 pst
Half of all voters STRONGLY DISAPPROVE of Trump's handling of the presidency. - Button
Doss, you'll love this - the ending especially...

Episodes 632 and 633.

It gives me hope for America.

Sunday, January 21, 2018

Abortion and Radical Extremism

If you pay close attention you will notice that the ones who claim to be ''conservative'' are the same ones who want to empower the govt to force women to have babies or to STOP having sex.

They're not conservatives; they're radical extremist misogynists.

Trump on Govt Shutdown

“Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the President’s the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room, and he’s got to lead. And he doesn’t do that, he doesn’t like doing that, that’s not his strength. And that’s why you have this horrible situation going on in Washington. It’s a very, very bad thing and it’s very embarrassing worldwide.” - Donald J. Trump - 2013

"Our country needs a good "shutdown"  . . .  to fix mess!" - Donald J. Trump - May, 2017

Friday, January 19, 2018

One for Imzadi

3833   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 2:51pm -- Fri, Jan 19, 18 pst
Truth, Justice and the American way!
He thought R after a Congressman's name meant REPUBLICAN not Representative! That chatter is lost!

6542   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 8:52am -- Sat, Jan 20, 18 pst
You don't make law without the Presidents consent! MY GOODNESS!!! 

Pantied Right Wingers

Pantied Right Wingers

What |IS| it with you rightwinger guys and your panties fetish?

1977 PM: Victor [Quote] -- 1:22pm -- Fri, Oct 1, 10 pst
My panties
are not in a wad.

4545   PM:   Prapius   [Quote]     -- 5:37am -- Wed, Aug 26, 15 pst
  . . . 

9373   PM:   Vagne   [Quote]     -- 5:01pm -- Wed, Mar 4, 15 pst
I don't let  my panties
  get in a wad about this....they do what they

5435   PM:   Dino   [Quote]     -- 9:05am -- Wed, Aug 26, 15 pst
 . . . And I love to look at other mens underwear. 

9869 PM: Dino --Sun, Mar 21 5:20am PST -----
No need to ask.....Prap and I are LOVERS!!!!

Trump Calls for Shutdown

''Our country needs a good ''shutdown'' . . . to fix mess!''

Yes, Dosset in Speedos!

You can believe parpus; or you can believe Jajski, Always4Him and Dutchie. It's up to you. *S*

9182 PM: Dutchie [Quote] -- 8:32pm -- Sat, Jan 7, 12 PST
Dutchie do look studly in those speedos.

2846 PM: Jajski [Quote] -- 8:33am -- Thu, Feb 16, 12 PST
( quoted: Dutchie - and doss looks good in speedos. One of the few men who does. )
he does.

963   PM:   Grrllawyer   [Quote]     -- 1:50pm -- Mon, Nov 28, 11 pst
Grrllawyer Ambassador from the Fairy Kingdom.
I wanna stalk Doss and use him as a sex toy

972   PM:   Always4him   [Quote]     -- 1:51pm -- Mon, Nov 28, 11 pst
Grrl.. esp. if he's wearing that speedo...*L*

1033   PM:   Dutchie   [Quote]     -- 9:57am -- Mon, Nov 28, 11 pst
doss in his speedos........*sigh*

1387     PM:     Jajski      -- Wed, Aug 2 8:16am pst
I have seen dosset' speedo pix. he's a fine specimen of a man.

Book Him, Dano!

Trump Five-O

Thursday, January 18, 2018

Global Approval of US Leadership

How does the world view the US and its leadership now?

Sunnybelle Says Trump is "POS"

6357   PM:   Sunnybelle   [Quote]     -- 5:12am -- Thu, Jan 18, 18 pst
Dudley...sleeping around too, though he didn't seem to want to tell his wife about his infidelity. pos.

Hillary Won the Mandate according to Dudley

Finally, Dudley fesses up.

6297   PM:   Dudley   [Quote]     -- 5:00am -- Thu, Jan 18, 18 pst
Hillary won the mandate . . . .

Wednesday, January 17, 2018

Dino and Faggism

2718 PM: Prapius -- Mon, Sep 21 2:57pm PST -----
Only a faggot would call another man a faggot.

You mean like this?

4360   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 2:33pm -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
Shut up faggot!

CaG Implodes

3383   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 10:52am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
Veritas is White and a Racist
Documentation isn't a fact. It is a place to steal ideas and use them as your own. And because people like Natchez aren't education, they are unable to discriminate good ideas from ones that aren't. So they post anything and then document it as though citing the source validates the idea.

3404   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 10:57am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
Veritas is White and a Racist
Then why cite a source?

8151   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 12:22pm -- Thu, Jan 18, 18 pst
List your sources. 

9016 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 1:22pm -- Wed, Dec 20, 17 pst
Christians are Good
I will await your proof.

Pale Hyprocrisy

A tactic you frequently employ when we have trouble deciphering your gibberish.

3318   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 10:27am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
CaG often the invective here is claiming an opponent is dumb

4585 PM: Palerider [Quote] -- 2:55pm -- Thu, Dec 31, 15 pst
dosset I know you're dumb . . .

Harvard - Media Bias - 2016 Election

Harvard study documents anti-Clinton media bias

"A new report by Harvard University’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society has conclusively documented what many of us have suspected, and what Hillary Clinton observes in her new book, What Happened: media coverage of the 2016 presidential campaign heavily favored Donald Trump. The researchers further concluded that not only are right-wing and mainstream media polarized politically, but they operate according to different ethical and journalistic standards."

"The report, titled “Partisanship, Propaganda, & Disinformation: Online Media & the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election,” found that unethical journalistic practices driven by the desire to produce “clickbait,” coupled with the viral sharing power of social media, resulted in a proliferation of disinformation and propaganda that tipped the election in Donald Trump’s favor."

Read the PDF here.

CaG and Racism

2822   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:22am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
Christians are Good
Veritas: You're white and a racist.

Then, 29 minutes later:

2978   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:51am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
Veritas is White and a Racist
Racism has no meaning. As insults go, it is empty of content


8447 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 8:39am -- Tue, Jan 16, 18 pst
Christians are Good
If you use a name to defame someone you ought demonstrate at the minimum you know what it means.

3039 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 9:04am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
Veritas is White and a Racist
Do you know what a racist is?

Yes, do you? 

Rhino - Glutton for Punishment

1751 PM: Vamp [Quote] -- 3:24pm -- Mon, Oct 9, 17 pst
Rhino you are a glutton for punishment... I think it’s wrong

Christian Charity

2632   PM:   Celeste   [Quote]     -- 7:51am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
My Parish is hosting the men's homeless shelter for the next two weeks. They asked me to help out. I'll do anything but that so nope.

2642   PM:   Rhino   [Quote]     -- 7:53am -- Wed, Jan 17, 18 pst
It is really Cold
Celeste: I told my wife.. fuck em.. if they want to be homeless.. let them sleep on the street in 18 degree weather.. they all can die

Parpus and the Potato

Story I heard about parpus. He was having trouble getting a date so he went to Dino and Toy for advice.

''Put a potato down your pants,'' they said. ''The guys will LOVE that.''

Next day parpus showed up broken hearted, whining, ''It didn't work.''

Toy and Dino cry, ''You DUMBASS! You're supposed to put the potato down the FRONT of your pants!''

Tuesday, January 16, 2018

CaG Invites Others to Refute His Claims

8452   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:39am -- Tue, Jan 16, 18 pst
Christians are Good
It is wish to refute any part of what I wrote go ahead.

Misty -Stupid Chat Tricks

8005 PM: Mistysea [Quote] -- 6:57am -- Tue, Jan 16, 18 pst
Hope Hicks refused to carry out duties her boss requested of her. She's an Obama holdover... clearly against the best interests of America.

Monday, January 15, 2018

Who's Irrational?

4349   PM:   Jajski   [Quote]     -- 8:16am -- Mon, Jan 15, 18 pst

because the left is extremely irrational 

Saturday, January 13, 2018

Trump Thought Only Black People Were on Welfare

President Donald Trump was apparently unaware that not all—in fact, the vast majority—of welfare beneficiaries are not black as recently as last March, according to a new report. In the spring of 2017, the newly elected president met with members of the Congressional Black Caucus. During that meeting, one of the members mentioned to Trump that…

Friday, January 12, 2018

Trump Lies Cataloged by Fact Checker

Trump can't help but lie.

Women's Rights? A "Subversive Movement"?

4090   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 10:53am -- Fri, Jan 12, 18 pst
The so called Pussy hats are just a goofy prop of the subversive movement
known by a few names in the last decade.

I asked Pale, "Do you think it was subversive for women to demand the right to vote? What about women demanding equal pay for equal work? What about women demanding they NOT be sexually assaulted at work?"

He won't answer me. 

No, MLK Was Not a Republican

Pulitzer Prize winner, Politifact, rules as FALSE the claim that MLK was a republican.

"To check it out, we checked with King biographers, including Pulitzer Prize winner David Garrow, and found that King avoided partisan identification. "It's simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican," Garrow told PolitiFact Texas.

We rated the claim False."

Wednesday, January 10, 2018

CaG and Ridicule

Like when I poke holes in your arguments. You neither understand nor accept; and you seek to ridicule me instead.

4646   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:46am -- Wed, Jan 10, 18 pst
Christians are Good
Which is why discernment is necessary, versus judgement. The fool will neither understand nor accept, but rather will seek to ridicule or disavow.

Parpus Is a Racist

Racism anyone?

4019 PM: Prapius [Quote] -- 6:36am -- Wed, Jan 10, 18 pst

Fusion GPS Testimonry Transcript

Or to view at Google Docs click here: Glenn Simpson Testimony

Tuesday, January 09, 2018

Dino and Islam

1604   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 3:48pm -- Tue, Jan 9, 18 pst
Natch, since you aren't a Christian then you haven't a clue what a Christian has to follow.

CaG the Kidder

CaG is kidding us.

2290 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 8:00am -- Tue, Jan 9, 18 pst
Christians are Good
Trump is truthful, more so than any recent politician.

Monday, January 08, 2018

Bush's Recession Blamed on Clinton

1052   PM:   Bob   [Quote]     -- 8:41pm -- Mon, Jan 8, 18 pst
Banking Deregulation during the Clinton term lead directly to the Clinton World Wide Recession . . .

Trump Said Obama Was a "Psycho!"

"I am starting to think that there is something seriously wrong with President Obama's mental health . . . Psycho!"

Donald Trump -- Oct. 16, 2014

Sunday, January 07, 2018

How's the Market?

Just when you thought....

MwJohnson Takes off the Gloves

5750   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 4:38pm -- Sun, Jan 7, 18 pst
There's now 5 guys in this chat who will be picking themselves off the floor, if we ever meet in person. No Hi, Hello, How are you.....just down they go. 

No More Attacks on Islam

4340 PM: Mistysea [Quote] -- 9:11am -- Sun, Jan 7, 18 pst
I have yet to understand why non-believers, bring up Christians when they are spouting . . .

4453 PM: Raven [Quote] -- 9:50am -- Sun, Jan 7, 18 pst
Criticizing one's faith when you do not share in that faith is rather moot.

Saturday, January 06, 2018

Lilleuk Tells It Like It Is

1036   PM:   Lilleuk   [Quote]     -- 3:40pm -- Sat, Jan 6, 18 pst
CAG .. as they call you ... nah, it does not need a mind reader or a specific knowledge of ''Americans'' ... I have worked in psychiatry for many many years, and does not take .. to paraphrase .. a ''genius'' to see what is happening.

When a proven liar, who is actually tweeting things no sane person  would say, and then holding the highest office in the world and being a danger not just to Americans, but to the entire world ... italmost defies belief that people will still support such a freak of nature. The man is sick.

then there can only be one reason that some people still support him .. fear .... not being able to admit that they were wrong ... too much invested emotions and energy defending him for a year. And wanting him SO much because what is the alternative for you? The woodman Pence? So you have no alternative but to support Trump

 Except if you were actually sitting up a little, taking off your blinkers, trying to read other news sources than the ones you so desperately cling to .. and trying to see what is really happening.

It's almost all over. And you are clinging on for dear life to a madman who's not doing you any good whatsoever. And may cause WW3.

Clinton Paid the Award Why?

600   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 1:51pm -- Sat, Jan 6, 18 pst
Christians are Good
A good example. Rather than go to court, pay the fine. It happens every day. Rather than go through the cost and emotional burden of trial, plea to the charge.


I asked him, "Are you suggesting that the two really are innocent, but pleaded guilty just to avoid the cost and burden of a trial? If that's not what you're suggesting, then what?"

He won't say. 

Dino, Proof, and Cowards

7132 PM: Dino [Quote] -- 5:54am -- Mon, Nov 30, 15 pst
. . .  you made an accusation about me but have yet to prove it. COWARD!

Misty and Quotations

8404   PM:   Mistysea   [Quote]     -- 7:23am -- Sat, Jan 6, 18 pst
You just quoted Kobach... when did you meet him?

Friday, January 05, 2018

Why the GOP Won't Impeach Trump

The GOP has a wish list ---- destroying Medicare and Social Security; more vote suppression; attacks on women's rights; stripping children of their health care; allowing polluters to poison our air and water.....

Their BEST bet of getting it done is by having a total madman in the WH.

That is one reason they refuse to hold Trump accountable. They're not done yet.

CaG Lies about Gore

CaG:  Did you think we'd not |CATCH| you lying about what Gore said?

Here's your lie:

4063   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 8:16am -- Fri, Jan 5, 18 pst
Christians are Good
Algore: ''Global warming produces bitter cold.'' [Which you then attributed to "An official Algore twitter at 5:50 pm January 4, 2018."]

I knew you were lying so I checked. Here's the TRUTH.

Al Gore‏Verified account @algore: 'It’s bitter cold in parts of the US, but climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann explains that’s exactly what we should expect from the climate crisis.' - Jan. 4, 2018

Dudley's Ideas Match

Dudley: Are you open to ideas that don't perfectly match your own? You're not a hypocrite; are you?

3897   PM:   Dudley   [Quote]     -- 7:47am -- Fri, Jan 5, 18 pst
 . . .He is open to any idea, as long as it perfectly matches his own.

Thursday, January 04, 2018

Rhino Says Trump "Worst President in US History"

Now and then, even Rhino fucks up and tells the truth. Yes, Trump WILL be remembered as the worst ever.

9467 PM: Rhino [Quote] -- 8:34am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
Texas Strong
Benden: unlike Obama.. he will be he worst president in US history

Rhino and Hypocrisy

9150 PM: Rhino [Quote] -- 7:45am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
Texas Strong
Whipple: they think they are entitled.. look at doss.. sitting thar in Houston.. sticking it to his creditors.. by filing bankruptcy

9182 PM: Rhino [Quote] -- 7:51am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
Texas Strong
Veritas: show me the proof.. cause.. you can't.. stop with the slander

Rhino Demands Proof

9182   PM:   Rhino   [Quote]     -- 7:51am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
Texas Strong
Veritas: show me the proof.. cause.. you can't.. stop with the slander

9182   PM:   Rhino   [Quote]     -- 7:51am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
Texas Strong
Veritas: show me the proof.. cause.. you can't.. stop with the slander

Dudley and Guilt by Association

8774   PM:   Dudley   [Quote]     -- 6:15am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
. . . This is guilt by association . . .
You mean like this?

8724   PM:   Dudley   [Quote]     -- 6:07am -- Thu, Jan 4, 18 pst
Why did Hillary call Robert Sheets Byrd her mentor? Why did Clinton call Fulbright, who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Bill his mentor? Hypocrisy will kick in in the nuts every time dopey.

Republicans Are Faking It?

The Republicans’ Fake Investigations

JAN. 2, 2018

(Originally appeared in NY TIMES New York Edition; pg A15.)
A generation ago, Republicans sought to protect President Richard Nixon by urging the Senate Watergate committee to look at supposed wrongdoing by Democrats in previous elections. The committee chairman, Sam Ervin, a Democrat, said that would be “as foolish as the man who went bear hunting and stopped to chase rabbits.”
Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we’re their favorite quarry.
In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.
We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.
Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.
We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump’s complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.
Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.
We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.
The intelligence committees have known for months that credible allegations of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia were pouring in from independent sources during the campaign. Yet lawmakers in the thrall of the president continue to wage a cynical campaign to portray us as the unwitting victims of Kremlin disinformation.
We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.
We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.
We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.
Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust. We first learned of that meeting from news reports last year — and the committees know it. They also know that these Russians were unaware of the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s work for us and were not sources for his reports.
Yes, we hired Mr. Steele, a highly respected Russia expert. But we did so without informing him whom we were working for and gave him no specific marching orders beyond this basic question: Why did Mr. Trump repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state that most serious investors shun?
What came back shocked us. Mr. Steele’s sources in Russia (who were not paid) reported on an extensive — and now confirmed — effort by the Kremlin to help elect Mr. Trump president. Mr. Steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the F.B.I.
We did not discuss that decision with our clients, or anyone else. Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.
After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.
We’re extremely proud of our work to highlight Mr. Trump’s Russia ties. To have done so is our right under the First Amendment.
It is time to stop chasing rabbits. The public still has much to learn about a man with the most troubling business past of any United States president. Congress should release transcripts of our firm’s testimony, so that the American people can learn the truth about our work and most important, what happened to our democracy.
Glenn R. Simpson and Peter Fritsch, both former journalists, are the founders of the research firm Fusion GPS.
A version of this op-ed appears in print on January 3, 2018, on Page A15 of the New York edition with the headline: The Republicans' Fake Inquiry.

Wednesday, January 03, 2018

Dwight Predicts Trump's Exoneration

6268   PM:   Dwightvol   [Quote]     -- 3:57pm -- Wed, Jan 3, 18 pst 
. . . Sometime before the midterm election, I look for Mueller to exonerate President Trump.

Trump Team no Unified Front

Monday, January 01, 2018

Dino Renounces New Testament

9079   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 12:15pm -- Mon, Jan 1, 18 pst  
Didn't know Jesus was a middle man. 


So much for the New Testament, eh?

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

People Join Military for the Money

In Weak Economy, College Grads 'Surge' Into Military

5:46 PM ET
Michael Tomsic
The weak economy is helping to drive thousands more college graduates into the U.S. military.
Since the recession began in 2007, there's been a steady increase in the number of college graduates joining the armed forces. The Navy and Army have seen the biggest jumps. About 60 percent more college grads joined the Navy last year than in 2007.
For some of them, it's a job some would never have imagined for themselves just a few years ago.
Not 'What I Thought I'd Be Doing'
Louis Lam fits that bill. He's your typical good college student. He's on the dean's list at the University of Maryland, where he studies electrical engineering. He's active in campus organizations. To save money, he lives at home. He even helps his mom make dinner.
"Generally I would just get the dishes and stuff ready," Lam says as his mother drips sauce onto meat sizzling in a skillet.
OK, maybe he's not helping with the actual cooking. Mom jokes there's a reason for that.
"He's not very good," Mydung Lam laughs. But Lam is a great son, she says.
When his parents Tuy (center) and Mydung (right) Lam lost their jobs, electrical engineering major Louis Lam enlisted in the Navy. Michael Tomsic/NPR hide caption
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Michael Tomsic/NPR
And that son's plans have changed drastically since he got to college.
"What I thought that I'd be doing, going into college as an electrical engineer," Lam says, "I thought that I'd be working with gadgets, making robotic things, [tinkering with] groundbreaking technology."
The idea of joining the military had never even crossed his mind, Lam says. But that was before both his parents lost their jobs. Unemployment benefits held them over for a while, but they ran out in April.
"I was like, I really need to get this job as soon as possible," Lam says. "Otherwise, we might lose the house. We might have to sell some stuff."
He saw his college friends struggling to find jobs or internships and says his family couldn't afford for him to go through that.
Instead, he turned to the military. As the U.S. has struggled to recover from the worst recession since World War II, tens of thousands of other college students and graduates have made a similar choice.
Bad Economy Drives Recruitment
"When the economy worsens, as it has in recent years, we certainly see a surge in the number of young people who are highly qualified, who want to join the military," says Beth Asch, who researches military recruitment for the RAND Corp. It has studied U.S. military recruitment for more than 40 years.
Asch says the surge in college graduates looks especially large this time around because of just how far the economy fell.
"Since the mid-2000s, the unemployment rate has essentially doubled," she says. And since then, the Army and Navy have seen a more than 50 percent rise in recruits with college degrees, according to their latest numbers.
Asch says college graduates make up a relatively small portion of total recruits. But as long as the economy stays weak, their numbers will go up.
Part of the reason is that it always pays to have a job with Uncle Sam.
"In order to sustain a volunteer force with high-quality people, the military finds it has to pay people more than they would get in the civilian world," Asch says.
"That gap has actually increased in recent years, in part because of the continuing rise of military pay and partly because the economy has stagnated, and so civilian pay has stagnated as well."
More People Than Positions
At a naval-recruiting station near the University of Maryland, Lt. Mary Neal says it's almost easy right now for military recruiters.
"We have more people coming than we have positions for," she says. "That's just how busy we are. It's sad when we actually have to tell them, 'Sorry, we've already met goal for this year.' "
Neal says almost all the people being turned away have college degrees. She says the perks of a military job are especially appealing right now — good pay, free health care, a tax-free housing allowance and a pay raise every year.
Another recruiter at Neal's station pitched all that to Louis Lam before his parents' unemployment benefits ran out. He signed up and is in for five years.
Working On Ships From Home
Lam says the recruiter also said he could stay close to home. He'll use his engineering background to work on nuclear reactors on submarines and ships, and he can do that from the D.C. area.
While he finishes college this year, Lam says, the Navy will pay him about $50,000.
"That specifically was very important to me because of our financial situation," he says. "I definitely wanted to say, 'Hey, is this what I'm going to be making? And if it is, then this is exactly what I need right now.' "
Lam says the checks started coming a few months ago, and he's been spending most of them on his parents' mortgage and his student loans. For now, he's giving up the goal he had before he got to college: a career in the private sector with a big-name company.
Lam says he's OK with that. There's a much better payout for helping his family and serving his country.

Friday, December 29, 2017

Dudley Declares

4297 PM: Dudley [Quote] -- 5:44am -- Wed, Jun 8, 16 pst
Pandora, I'll explain it to you because you're too fucking stupid to understand it on your own. When you make a declarative statement and have nothing to back it up, then the only proof is your assumption that it is true, and that's not logical. Just more proof that you're an illogical fucktard.

Thursday, December 28, 2017

Pale and Questions

Pale: You'll see THIS one again.

1624   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 10:48am -- Thu, Dec 28, 17 pst
 . . .  tisk tisk. Try the question asked.

Monday, December 25, 2017

Dino's Bigotry Is Too Much for Sunnybelle

Ordinarily, Sunny tolerates bigotry from her right winger friends; but Dino's is just too much for even her.

5377 PM: Sunnybelle [Quote] -- 7:48am -- Sun, Aug 20, 17 pst
Raven, I told you when I put you in ignore. You enjoy indulging in bigotry. I have no patience for it.

Trump’s Biggest Whoppers of 2017

 1. More people watched the inauguration than ever before

“The overall audience was, I think, the biggest ever to watch an inauguration address, which was a great thing,” the president said on Jan. 26, six days after he was sworn in.

Ample evidence refutes this claim. From the crowds to the television ratings, Barack Obama’s 2009 inauguration attracted a bigger audience than Trump’s.

The White House said 720,000 people attended the Jan. 20 inauguration in person, while Trump estimated 1.5 million. Both figures were disputed by fact checkers. But even if you take the White House at face value, that's still fewer than the 1.8 million who attended Obama’s first inauguration — the District of Columbia's estimate.

Approximately 30.6 million people tuned in to watch Trump’s inauguration on television, down from the 37.8 million viewers who watched Obama’s 2009 inauguration. (Ronald Reagan's 1981 inauguration still holds the record, with 41.8 million TV viewers.)

The White House spokesman at the time, Sean Spicer, pointed to 17 million streaming starts of the inauguration reported by CNN, suggesting it was live streaming that made it the “largest audience to witness an inauguration, period.”

These numbers aren’t an exact science — a page reloading counts as a second stream, as does an accidental click, and most networks did not release streaming numbers — but that same inexact science showed bigger numbers for Obama. In 2009, even amid the early days of live streaming, CNN reported 21 million streams for Obama's inauguration.
2. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote because of fraud

Millions of illegal votes cost the president the popular vote, Trump told lawmakers in a meeting on Jan. 23.

There is no evidence that there were millions of fraudulent ballots cast, let alone enough to make up the nearly 3 million votes separating Clinton and Trump in the popular vote. Voter fraud is extremely rare, and the president appears to have acknowledged the reality of the 2016 election at least once — in legal filings.

“All available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake,” his own lawyers wrote in a court filing opposing the recount efforts by a third party, as posted by The Washington Post.
3. Michael Flynn didn't do 'anything wrong'

"When I looked at the information, I said, I don't think he did anything wrong. If anything, he did something right,” Trump said in an interview on Feb. 16. “The thing is, he didn’t tell our vice president properly.”

After asking for the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — Trump said he did so for misleading Vice President Mike Pence about his sanctions-related discussions with Russian officials — the president said his adviser had done nothing wrong.

But Flynn had done something "wrong," and Trump knew about at least some part of it 18 days before he fired Flynn. The White House was informed in meetings on Jan. 26 and Jan. 27 that Flynn had exposed himself to blackmail by lying to the vice president about his conversations with Russians, the acting attorney general at the time, Sally Yates, later testified under oath. Trump was briefed by the White House attorney on Jan. 26, NBC News reported.

"We felt like it was critical that we get this information to the White House, in part because the vice president was unknowingly making false statements to the public and because we believed that General Flynn was compromised with respect to the Russians," Yates said.

Flynn also committed a crime when he lied about the same conversation to the FBI, and he pleaded guilty to doing so as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into the Trump campaign's contacts with Russia. The president’s lawyers won’t say whether Trump knew Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time of Flynn's firing.
4. 'Look what's happening last night in Sweden'

"We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden! Who would believe this?" Trump said Feb. 18.

The truth? Nothing happened "last night in Sweden."

Trump, criticizing Europe's refugee policy at a rally in defense of his travel ban, appeared to invent a terrorist attack in Sweden to make his point.

According to the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, the Friday night in question was marked by mostly unremarkable news including an alleged drunken driver, an avalanche warning and a famous singer having technical problems in rehearsal.
5. Obama bugged Trump Tower

On March 4, Trump tweeted that his predecessor had wiretapped him.

This is false.

On March 5, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News in an exclusive interview that "there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign."

Later, the Justice Department confirmed this in a lawsuit in September saying that the department and the FBI “have no records related to wiretaps as described."
6. Russia investigation is 'a made-up story'

“You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won,” the president told NBC News’ Lester Holt on May 11.

"This Russia thing" is very real.

The U.S. intelligence community confirmed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election in a interagency report released in early January, and the FBI was investigating Russian efforts to aid the president before the outcome of the election was decided, The New York Times reported. A probe is being conducted by special counsel Robert Mueller — in which four former Trump campaign officials have already been charged — while the House and Senate intelligence committees continue to investigate as well.

What's more, Trump was warned by the FBI in the weeks after he secured the Republican nomination that Russians would try and infiltrate his campaign.

And despite the Trump team’s insistence that they had no ties to Russia, The Washington Post reported that at least nine people in his circle had contact with Russians during the campaign and transition.

Those include Flynn (who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI); a foreign policy adviser named George Papadopoulos (also charged as part of Mueller's probe); former campaign chairman Paul Manafort (charged on multiple counts, including conspiracy against the U.S.); Trump's oldest son, Donald Jr.; Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner; Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen; and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who was an adviser and U.S. senator during the campaign.
7. Counterprotesters in Charlottesville lacked a permit

“There were people in that rally — and I looked the night before — if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people — neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest — because I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit,” Trump said Aug. 15.

These comments — an apparent efforts to defend the white nationalists who rallied in Charlottesville, Virginia — set off a political firestorm. They were also false.
Image: Rally in Charlottesville
White nationalists carry torches on the grounds of the University of Virginia, on the eve of a planned Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Aug. 11, 2017. Picture taken August 11, 2017. Alejandro Alvarez / News2Share via Reuters file

There were two protests that weekend: one on Friday at the University of Virginia, and the other on Saturday in a park near the Robert E. Lee statue in question. The first required no permits — it began on the UVA campus, where none are needed — and at the second, both groups had permits. The Washington Post published the counterprotesters' permit, with some personal information removed, and an NBC affiliate reported on the white nationalist group's permit here. Anti-white nationalist protesters did not rally without permission.

And counter to Trump's defense, the white nationalists were also not particularly quiet in the first protest Friday. Men with torches marched while chanting “blood and soil” — a Nazi slogan — and “Jews will not replace us.”
8. America pays the most in taxes

"We pay more tax than anybody in the world. We’re going to reduce taxes," Trump said Aug. 10.

This was one of Trump's most frequent complaints on the campaign trail and one of his most repeated falsehoods.

Tax experts say that no matter how you do the math, Americans do not pay more in taxes than their international peers.

Trump also claimed repeatedly that America is the highest-taxed nation in the world. It’s not, according to the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan think tank.
9. Tax reform will 'cost me a fortune'

Tax reform “is going to cost me a fortune — this thing, believe me, believe me, this is not good for me,” the president told a Missouri crowd on Nov. 29.

This is false. An NBC News analysis of the House tax plan — the only piece of tax-related legislation that had passed in Congress at the time of Trump's statement — found that it would personally save the president $20 million. His family was estimated to save more than $1 billion based on his reported wealth and his 2005 tax return, the only publicly available return.

The tax bill has been modified since then, but the president still stands to gain personally: His limited liability companies will be taxed at a lower rate, thanks to the changes on how pass-through income is treated, while the larger commercial real estate industry is expected to significantly benefit.

Trump on Diversity

8380   PM:   Redcatcher   [Quote]     -- 8:29am -- Mon, Dec 25, 17 pst
Happy Holidays!
''Donald Trump's guide to diversity:

Haitians: Have AIDS
Nigerians: Live in huts
American Indians: Pocahontas
Black Americans: Disrespectful ingrates
Mexicans: Criminals and rapists
Muslims: Evil terrorists
Women: Treat them like shit

White supremacists: Very fine people''

Saturday, December 23, 2017

Dino Is "Loosing" It

8001 PM: Dino [Quote] -- 4:55pm -- Wed, Feb 3, 16 pst
I read somewhere that viagra gives you memory loss.
6708   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 2:34pm -- Fri, Sep 15, 17 pst
My mind isn't what it once was...

3527   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 6:02pm -- Sat, Dec 23, 17 pst
. . . Doc says I need to do things to stir my memory. Cause Imma kinda loosing it.

Dino's License

2777 PM: Raven [Quote] -- 3:40pm -- Sat, Dec 23, 17 pst
I can't post my license....I'd get banned.

Monday, December 18, 2017

Rhino Vulgarity

9168 PM: Rhino [Quote] -- 7:01am -- Mon, Dec 18, 17 pst
Texas Strong
Vamp: and just plain gross.. with ole saggy tits 

9156 PM: Vamp [Quote] -- 6:58am -- Mon, Dec 18, 17 pst
Weed...she wants you to lick her ass to redeem yourself

9168 PM: Rhino [Quote] -- 7:01am -- Mon, Dec 18, 17 pst
Texas Strong
Vamp: and just plain gross.. with ole saggy tits 

Sunday, December 17, 2017

Dino's Flipping Out

Remember:  I TOLD you guys that as Mueller closes in the Flying Monkey Trolls will become ANGRIER and ANGRIER; and CRAZIER and CRAZIER.  *S*

7798   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 7:45pm -- Sun, Dec 17, 17 pst
. . .  Doss..fair warning...stop posting or I will again make a fool of you. Got it?

MwJohnson Climbs into Bed with Putin

Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 10:56am -- Sat, Feb 25, 17 pst
It is true. I would trust the Russians before I would trust a Dem Admim.

Saturday, December 16, 2017

The Paula Jones "Shakedown"

CaG explain's Paula Jones' lawsuit against Clinton. Remember whose husband was one of the lawyers. Think Kellyanne Conway.

1132   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 12:24pm -- Sat, Dec 16, 17 pst
Christians are Good
Sexual harassment lawsuits are a shakedown . . . They are a gold mine for attorneys seeking to get rich.

More Indictments? More Denial

As Mueller obtains MORE felony convictions, we'll see MORE and MORE conversations from the wacky right about:

diet, furniture finishing, baking, gardening, cars, grandchildren, puppies, vacations, weather, sock-folding, and a plethora of ailments from bunions to hair loss.

Friday, December 15, 2017

More Misogyny

They have absolutely NO respect for women.

778 PM: Rhino [Quote] -- 6:01am -- Thu, Sep 14, 17 pst
Rhino -- Texas Strong!
Deltamike: daddy's usually have a rough time when the girls learn to drive... cause.. women drivers suck..



You bet.

7129   PM:   Rhino   [Quote]     -- 2:14pm -- Wed, Dec 27, 17 pst
Texas Strong
Raven: when it comes to that cunt violet.. she is what she gets.. 

Thursday, December 14, 2017

Clinton's Accusers Lied

Flowers was paid $500,000 to pretend to be Bill Clinton's lover. She claimed to have had an ongoing torrid affair with him in a hotel that hadn't even been BUILT yet. But they forgot to TELL her, ''When you claim you met him for sex, be sure and pick a hotel that HAD been BUILT by that time.''

The Paula Jones case was thrown out; with the republican judge remarking that EVEN IF her story were true, it was NOT sexual harassment.

The Kathleen Willey case was DROPPED by Starr after she ADMITTED to lying to his investigators; he acknowledged that they'd NEVER get a jury to believe her.

Juanita Broadderick, who famously accused Clinton of raping her SWORE TWICE UNDER OATH that he didn't even assault her; much less rape her.

Every single case they tried to make against Clinton fell to PIECES when it turned out the witnesses were LYING.

When an accuser swears both that he DID and that he DIDN'T, that sort of nukes the case against the accused.

And that is what happened with both Broadderick AND Lewinsky.

Planoman and Bannings

1795   PM:   Grim   [Quote]     -- 11:49am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time
Doss: I wanted to talk to you about that Planoman post of the docket number.

1806   PM:   Grim   [Quote]     -- 11:51am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time
Doss: So your position is it is not you. I think he believes it is you and so that is an attempt to post information that will lead to the user and therefor bannable. I might consider doing nothing.

1808   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 11:51am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
doss - - - - - Trump: ''Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.''
[Quoting Grim: ''I wanted to talk to you about that Planoman post of the docket number.'']
Several of them apparently think they have located me; and they share information about some dude who has (or had) a court case going on.

They like to try to intimidate me with the information; but it's not me. They're fucking clueless.

Remember: These are the same people who told us birds are mammal.


1818   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 11:53am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
doss - - - - - Trump: ''Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.''
It's not me.

I thought of asking you to do something about it; but if you do, they'll take THAT as confirmation (falsely) that it IS me.

So, I just tell them what I told you about them. ''You[re] as good at stalking as you are at defending your political views; that is you SUCK!'' *S* 

1835 PM: Grim [Quote] -- 11:56am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time
Doss: The Attempt to post a users personal information that can lead to the user is bannable..... even if they get it wrong.

1836   PM:   Grim   [Quote]     -- 11:57am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time
Doss: Ok so you prefer I don't ban for it.. apparently.

1843   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 11:58am -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
doss - - - - - Trump: ''Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.''
I don't care if you ban him. It's fine with me.


1847   PM:   Grim   [Quote]     -- 12:00pm -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time
Doss: Oh goody. 


1853   PM:   Grim   [Quote]     -- 12:02pm -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst

Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time

Planoman banned two weeks. Posting what he thinks is personal information that can lead to a chatter here.

I am INTOLERANT of people trying to post others personal information in public here.


2113   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 12:42pm -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
doss - - - - - Trump: ''Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.''
Nor did I complain to Grim about Planoman's attempted stalking.

Someone else brought it to Grim's attention.


2094 PM: Grim [Quote] -- 12:40pm -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Grim Reaper
Fear not death
but only wasting time
Raven: I don't tell how mails me a complaint. But I have often verified who does not mail me. I won't play 20 questions with it. FYI: Doss did not mail me.


2104   PM:   Raven   [Quote]     -- 12:41pm -- Thu, Dec 14, 17 pst
Far as I am concerned he did! If they can make stuff about me, I can return the favor.

[ quoted: Grim - Raven I dont tell how mails me a complaint But I have often verified who does not mail me I wont play 20 questions with it FYI Doss did not mail me ]

Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Power to the People --- Thank You, Women!

Women hold more power than they may realize.

As far as I'm concerned, I WANT policy decisions made by the ones who work their fingers to the bone; sacrifice their health, their sleep, their well-being for their family; clean up after a vomiting child; take off work to carry a sick child to the doctor; feed a hungry infant at 2am; change a shitty diaper; do the shittiest work at 76% of the pay; crawl on their knees and work their asses to death for their children, their families, and their community.

Yeah --- I'd like to see women rise up and bring about change.

CaG and Allegations

7781 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 1:36pm -- Wed, Dec 13, 17 pst
Christians are Good
Allegations do not a case prove.

Rightwingers and Shit

There is a reason right wingers like Planoman go on and on about women's menstrual cycles, men's genitalia, homosexuality, and scatological insults.

We're just not sure what it is.

Tuesday, December 12, 2017

Johnson and the ACA

You are lying, Johnson. This did NOT happen. You simply made it up like a shameless piece of shit liar.

4210   PM:   Mwjohnson   [Quote]     -- 7:39pm -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
Just like the losing dems passed Obamacare after they'd lost, but before they left.


3856 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 6:37pm -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
Wat...I support the edict that you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, *shrugs*

Planoman Says Trump Has Already Built the Wall

No, Planoman; You said he'd already delivered the building of the wall. He hasn't. Were you lying? Or are you just misinformed?

2495 PM: Planoman [Quote] -- 1:23pm -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
[Quoting Maggie: ''which campaign promises has he accomplished plano??'']
Tasx reform (in the works)
repeal ACA (mandate is dead)
Travel Ban
The wall
TPP dead
Paris dead..
Nafta will be renegociated

Just to mention a few

Papadopoulos Lies

"Defendant PAPADOPOULOS further told the investigating agents that the professor was " a nothing " and "just a guy talk[ing] up connections or something." In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood that the professor had substantial connection s to Russian government officials (and had met with some of those officials in Moscow immediately prior to telling defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the "thousands of emails") and, over a period of months, defendant PAPADOPOULOS repeatedly sought to use the professor's Russian connections in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials." [Emphasis added]

Pale Comes to Clinton's Defense

1657   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 10:02am -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
. . . Do I believe Juanita? Yes . . .

Good. She says Clinton did NOT make "unwelcome sexual advances toward" her. We're glad you're coming on board.

From Juanita Broadderick's sworn affidavit:

"During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family's privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family."

Pale Acknowledges the Danger of Voter Suppression

1606   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 9:46am -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
Maggie if those in authority do not recognize the authority of the system,
then it all is ripe to break down.

Sexism, Misogyny, and Women Who Fight It

Message to Trump from Senator Gillibrand:

''You cannot silence me or the millions of women who have gotten off the sidelines to speak out about the unfitness and shame you have brought to the Oval Office.''

Message to Gillibrand from Planoman:

7295 PM: Planoman [Quote] -- 11:59am -- Mon, Dec 11, 17 pst
who gives a shit...she can join the maxiepad gang

They Always Go Personal

I can challenge Rhino's thinking without attacking him personally. I merely ask him to explain his reasoning.

His response?

He attacks my ''worth'' as a human being.

It's sad --- but this is where you guys are now.

How Trump "Won"

Trump was put in the WH by:

1) Vote suppression by the right;

2) A thirty year smear campaign against Hillary by the right and their hand-maidens in the media;

3) Smears of Hillary by the FBI Director;

4) Two BILLION in free media coverage given to Trump by the cable networks;

5) “Active Measures” operation launched by Putin to plant fake news stories intended to damage Hillary's chances and to help Trump’s;

6) Trump's shameless appeal to bigotry, racism, misogyny, etc. Yes, unfortunately there are a lot of quarters in US society where such an appeal works.

Monday, December 11, 2017

Planoman Admits He Spies for Putin

So you |ARE| a Putin spy? Damn, I was only kidding!

7629   PM:   Doss   [Quote]     -- 12:50pm -- Mon, Dec 11, 17 pst
Pale: Planoman KNOWS better than to deny he's a spy for Putin.

7630   PM:   Planoman   [Quote]     -- 12:50pm -- Mon, Dec 11, 17 pst
  . . . nope, it's the truth

Pale, Mistrels, and Menstruation

7501   PM:   Palerider   [Quote]     -- 12:32pm -- Mon, Dec 11, 17 pst
Minstrel pad is to women what a dildo is to men?  . . .

Right winger Misogyny

Misogyny, anyone?

7295   PM:   Planoman   [Quote]     -- 11:59am -- Mon, Dec 11, 17 pst
who gives a shit...she can join the maxiepad gang

How about stupidity?

2341 PM:  Planoman  [Quote]  -- 12:45pm -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
so...a maxipad is a kotex Judas?...are you sure you want to go with
that?...Fucking dumbass

"Available in regular and long length, U by Kotex Security Maxi Pads are latex-free, lotion-free and fragrance-free."


Another one for Imzadi's Stupid Chat Tricks. *S*

2410   PM:   Planoman   [Quote]     -- 12:58pm -- Tue, Dec 12, 17 pst
...Judas is laughable thinking a maxipad is a kotex

Planoman Says Clapper is a "Noted Liar"

7054  PM:  Planoman   [Quote]  -- 11:04am  -- Mon, Dec 11, 17 pst
Clapper is a noted liar..............

Victor and Sources

1019 PM: Victor [Quote] -- 8:36am -- Sun, Oct 11, 15 pst
Since your claim is not sourced, it is meaningless.

Trump on Trial

“This is Donald Trump on trial in Alabama,” Moore’s campaign strategist Dean Young said on ABC News’ “This Week.”

Sunday, December 10, 2017

Christians Misogyny

1612 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 3:54pm -- Wed, Apr 6, 16 pst
Christians are Good
There certainly are exceptions, but for the most part women have performed poorly in leadership roles.

Saturday, December 09, 2017


Punchy:  So what does "acquitted" mean?

9678   PM:   Punchy   [Quote]     -- 8:37am -- Sat, Dec 9, 17 pst
and the cop was acquitted... man, what a sin

Friday, December 08, 2017

Why Trump Backs Moore

Why did Trump back Moore? Aside from their obvious mutual interest in sexually abusing children, they both also seem to have a weird affinity for Putin.  From the Washington Post.

Roy Moore: ''Putin may be right, America is the focus of modern evil in the world.''

Misty Believes Trump Is Guilty of Something

Misty CONFIRMS Trump assaulted women:

4096   PM:   Mistysea   [Quote]     -- 5:28am -- Fri, Dec 8, 17 pst
Had Trump done anything.... the news media would be interviewing the women involved......

"Donald Trump accuser speaks to Anderson Cooper"

Thursday, December 07, 2017

Trump, Planoman, and Bankruptcy

1805 PM: Planoman [Quote] -- 2:06pm -- Thu, Dec 7, 17 pst
Trump never filed for bankrupcty

Fact-Check looked into it.

Yes, he filed bankruptcy SIX TIMES. *S*

CaG Admits Misstating Something Isn't a Lie

CaG: So if Hillary misstates, that is not a falsehood.

Okay you are catching on.

 784   PM:   Christians   [Quote]     -- 10:36am -- Thu, Dec 7, 17 pst
Christians are Good
So if Trump the businessman misstates, that isn't a falsehood.

Jobs Growth under Obama

When President Obama left office in 2017, we had enjoyed its longest streak of consecutive months of jobs growth in US history.

Wednesday, December 06, 2017

Clinton Accusers Lied

Not even Kenneth Starr believed Kathleen Willey.

"Starr's office eventually concluded, "the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the President’s deposition testimony about his conduct with Willey was false," and that, "Even assuming Willey’s testimony was truthful about the incident with President Clinton, her testimony at trial would be subject to further challenge based on the differences between her deposition and grand jury statements, as well as her acknowledgement of false statements to the Office of the Independent Counsel.""

Misty Never Read the Bible

I had a feeling Misty had never read the Bible.

6893 PM: Mistysea [Quote] -- 1:00pm -- Wed, Dec 6, 17 pst
Roostercogburn: He's right -- I never read the bible. I was brought up Roman Catholic ..... I am a recovering Catholic now...

Tuesday, December 05, 2017

Planoman and Backing Claims

7522 PM: Planoman [Quote] -- 10:04am -- Wed, Sep 13, 17 pst
not my schtick, you made the claim, back it up........remember?

Planoman and Credit Scores

Planoman:  No, bankruptcies DAMAGE credit scores.

Catching Planoman in a lie is like shooting fish in a barrel. *S*

First, here's his lie:

1927   PM:   Planoman   [Quote]     -- 1:15pm -- Tue, Dec 5, 17 pst
 . . . bankruptcy's always help the credit score
Now for the truth . . .

"There is no way to underestimate the impact a bankruptcy has on your credit. It is one of the worst things you can do to your scores. The exact effects will vary, but according to major credit scoring model FICO, bankruptcy can make your a good credit score (think 700 or above) to plummet by 200 points or more. Meanwhile, a less stellar credit score of 680 will drop about between 130 and 150 points."

CaG Is a Coward - According to Misty

57 PM: Mrsdeluxe -- Mon, Jul 1 4:38am PST -----
LOL - cowards put people in ignore and then talk about them.

You mean like this?

1815 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 12:58pm -- Tue, Dec 5, 17 pst
Ever since I put Dosset in ignore he has seemed obsessed with me.

Comey and the DNC Server

1322  PM:  Planoman [Quote]    -- 11:38am  -- Tue, Dec 5, 17 pst
. . .   since you brought up congressional hearings, I suggest you read up on James Comey's testimony before congress


We did. Comey didn't say the FBI had requested access to the DNC server.

Vamp, Australia, and Mass Killings

9580 PM: Vamp [Quote] -- 6:55am -- Tue, Dec 5, 17 pst
Australia still has mass killings.

Manafort Violates Bail

Try to imagine Hillary's campaign chair being indicted on TWELVE FELONY COUNTS; and then consorting with Russian intelligence operatives while out on bail.

Rather Speaks Out on Trumpism

When the time comes, and I hope it comes soon, to bury this era of moral rot and the defiling of our communal, social, and democratic norms, the perfect epitaph for the gravestone of this age of
unreason should be Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley’s already infamous quote:

“I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing… as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it’s on booze or women or movies.”

Grassley’s vision of America, quite frankly, is one I do not recognize. I thought the heart of this great nation was not limited to the ranks of the plutocrats who are whisked through life in chauffeured
cars and private jets, whose often inherited riches are passed along to children, many of whom no sacrifice or service is asked. I do not begrudge wealth, but it must come with a humility that money never is completely free of luck. And more importantly, wealth can never be a measure of worth.

I have seen the waitress working the overnight shift at a diner to give her children a better life, and yes maybe even take them to a movie once in awhile – and in her, I see America.

I have seen the public school teachers spending extra time with students who need help and who get no extra pay for their efforts, and in them I see America. I have seen parents sitting around kitchen tables with stacks of pressing bills and wondering if they can afford a Christmas gift for their children, and in them I see America.

I have seen the young diplomat in a distant foreign capital and the young soldier in a battlefield foxhole, and in them I see America.

I have seen the brilliant graduates of the best law schools who forgo the riches of a corporate firm for the often thankless slog of a district attorney or public defender’s office, and in them I see

I have seen the librarian reshelving books, the firefighter, police officer, and paramedic in service in trying times, the social worker helping the elderly and infirm, the youth sports coaches, the PTA
 presidents, and in them I see America.

I have seen the immigrants working a cash register at a gas station or trimming hedges in the frost of an early fall morning, or
driving a cab through rush hour traffic to make better lives for their families, and in them I see America.

I have seen the science students unlocking the mysteries of life late at night in university laboratories for little or no pay, and in them I see America.

I have seen the families struggling with a cancer diagnosis or dementia in a parent or spouse. Amid the struggles of mortality and dignity, in them I see America.

These, and so many other Americans  have every bit as much claim to a government working for them as the lobbyists and moneyed classes. And yet, the power brokers in Washington today seem deaf to these voices. It is a national disgrace of historic proportions. And finally, what is so wrong about those who must worry about the cost of a drink with friends, or a date, or a little entertainment, to rephrase Senator Grassley’s demeaning phrasings? Those who can’t afford not to worry about food, shelter, healthcare, education for their children, and all the other costs of modern life, surely they too deserve to be able to spend some of their “darn pennies” on the simple joys of life.

Never mind that almost every reputable economist has called this tax bill a sham of handouts for the rich at the expense of the vast majority of Americans and the future economic health of this nation.

Never mind that it is filled with loopholes written by lobbyists. Never mind that the wealthiest already speak with the loudest voices in Washington, and always have. Grassley’s comments open a window to the soul of the current national Republican Party and it it is not pretty. This is not a view of America that I think President Ronald Reagan let alone President Dwight Eisenhower or Teddy Roosevelt would have recognized. This is unadulterated cynicism and a version of top-down class warfare run amok.

As usual, Dan Rather hits the nail on the head, bringing an unparalleled level of expertise and experience to the discourse. Hopefully, his vision of America is one we return to soon. The country can’t survive much more of Trump’s kleptocratic rule.

Monday, December 04, 2017

Flanagan v Ford

I remember one year -- back when they printed voting results BY PRECINCT.....

We opened the paper and anxiously looked for OUR precinct and particularly in the primary for Harold Ford's seat.

There were exactly TWO votes cast for Mark Flanagan.

My wife and I high-fived! Those two votes were OURS! *S*

The Noose Tightens

As the noose tightens on Trump, we'll see more and more right winger fixation on personal attacks.

They stopped addressing real issues and facts years ago.

But as the situation worsens for Trump now, they will grow angrier and angrier.

Watch for the personal attacks to escalate.

6697   PM:   Elpincheviejo   [Quote]     -- 2:57pm -- Mon, Dec 4, 17 pst

Life's Complicated, You Reductive Fucking Shitbirds!
The entire culture and our politics are now dominated by people who have weaponized bad faith and shamelessness. SAD.

Planoman and the ACA

6483 PM: Planoman [Quote] -- 2:01pm -- Mon, Dec 4, 17 pst
Insurance cannot independently set their own rates, they have to go
before the state.............. 


He's catching on. It was the STATES and not Obama who let the insurance companies gouge their policy holders!

Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Attacking the FBI

Guess who said, "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're  losing."

Denial by the Right Wingers

From the right wingers we're going to see recipes galore --- tips on gardening --- home improvements -- furniture finishing -- flower arranging --- gun and ammo hints --- how to properly fold socks, etc......

ANYTHING but a discussion of Trump's Russia problem.

Russiagate? -- Watergate?

Soon Trump will be wandering the White House halls, clutching a bottle of Johnny Walker, cursing portraits of past presidents.

Watergate: “When the president does it, that means it is not illegal.”

Russiagate: ''[T]he president ''cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer.''''

Sunday, December 03, 2017

TJBob - Hypocrisy

3066 PM: Tejanobob [Quote] -- 5:57pm -- Sun, Dec 3, 17 pst
Tejano Bob
The satisfying thing for me, as time goes on, will be coming into BTP and seeing the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the few chatters in here who think they know everything, and that they 're smarter than all other chatters .

3110 PM: Tejanobob [Quote] -- 6:06pm -- Sun, Dec 3, 17 pst
Tejano Bob
I defended Bill Clinton way back. I've probably read more books and reports on the Clintons, both pro and con, than anybody in this room .

Johnson Admits He's a Republican

MwJohnson finally admits to being a republican.

2371 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 3:23pm -- Sun, Dec 3, 17 pst
GOOM.....We, as Republicans, should do better.

Who Told Trump Flynn Lied?

Trump says he fired Flynn for lying to the FBI.

Who told Trump Flynn had been lying to the FBI?

Why Get Rid of the ACA? Because It's Successful

Even a lying moron fucks up and tells the truth now and then.

1531  PM:  Roosercogburn   [Quote]  - - 10:19am  - - Sun, Dec 3, 17 pst
that is exactly why they are getting rid of it . . . 

[ quoted: Doss - Celeste Obamacare has been a huge success for our nation ]

Celeste and Public Policy

Celeste: ''My political views are the opposite of yours.''

Yes, I know.

You believe it's proper to STOP eligible voters from casting their ballots.

You believe it's proper to CUT people off their insurance.

You believe it's proper for Trump to put a foreign agent in charge of our national security.

You believe it's proper to allow manufacturers to dump carcinogens in our drinking water.

You believe it's proper to hike taxes on the poor in order to pay for a tax cut for the wealthy.

We know all of that.

What we DON'T know -- because you refuse to say - is WHY you believe those things.  

Saturday, December 02, 2017

Johnson Accidentally Told the Truth

Now and then, even Johnson screws up and tells the truth. Yes, all the wingers ''did was whine about Obama.''

7296 PM: Mwjohnson [Quote] -- 9:51am -- Sat, Dec 2, 17 pst
I suppose the melodrama of the left is due. All we did was whine about Obama.

27, Parpus, and Homosexuality

2718 PM: Prapius -- Mon, Sep 21 2:57pm PST -----
Only a faggot would call another man a faggot.

6016   PM:   27   [Quote]     -- 4:01am -- Sat, Dec 2, 17 pst
And yes Doss is a faggot

Friday, December 01, 2017

Trump Recruited by KGB

 ''The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his [Trump's] 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans.''

The KGB developed a personality questionnaire for case officers to use in assessing a target's suitability for recruiting as an asset.

Among other questions the KGB posed: ''Are pride, arrogance, egoism, ambition or vanity among subject’s natural characteristics?”

Remember, the KGB facilitated Trump's first visit to Moscow in the 1980's; and they were looking for a narcissist.  

''When did the KGB open a file on Donald Trump? . . . Eastern Bloc security service records suggest this may have been as early as 1977. That was the year when Trump married Ivana Zelnickova, a twenty-eight-year-old model from Czechoslovakia. Zelnickova was a citizen of a communist country. She was therefore of interest both to the Czech intelligence service, the StB, and to the FBI and CIA.''

CaG's Defense of Flynn

3488 PM: Christians [Quote] -- 11:02am -- Fri, Dec 1, 17 pst
Christians are Good
Even if the indictments are themselves tangential to his charter.

Defense Counselor CaG:  "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. SURE my client murdered that man; but the cops were investigating a BURGLARY! So you MUST acquit!"

Thursday, November 30, 2017

Chicken and the Egg

1050 PM: Elpincheviejo [Quote] -- 7:45pm -- Thu, Nov 30, 17 pst
Look at MW, with his cynicism about expertise. I blame the same forces that got Trump elected for that.

I don't buy the notion that the same forces that got Trump elected made MwJohnson into a dumb ass.

I think the way it worked was those forces appealed to the dumb asses of the nation to get Trump elected.

MwJohnson happily climbed on board, and to this day still runs interference for Trump.

Graham Flip Flops on Trump's Fitness for Office

 "What concerns me about the American press is this endless, endless attempt to label the guy some kind of kook not fit to be president."  -  Lindsey Graham -  December, 2017

"I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office."  -  Lindsey Graham -  February, 2016

Clapper on Russia's Meddling in th Election

''The Russians used cyber operations against both political parties, including hacking into servers used by the Democratic National Committee and releasing stolen data to WikiLeaks and other media outlets. Russia also collected on certain Republican Party-affiliated targets, but did not release any Republican-related data. The Intelligence Community Assessment concluded first that President Putin directed and influenced campaign to erode the faith and confidence of the American people in our presidential election process. Second, that he did so to demean Secretary Clinton, and third, that he sought to advantage Mr. Trump. These conclusions were reached based on the richness of the information gathered and analyzed and were thoroughly vetted and then approved by the directors of the three agencies and me.''

James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence

Clinton Cleared; Not So for Moore and Trump

And those allegations against Clinton were debunked; in one case by the accuser's sworn statement; and in the other case by the judge's throwing the case out summarily ---- and later stating that even if he did what Jones claims, it was NOT sexual harassment.

Of course, another HUGE difference between Clinton's case and the ones against Trump and Moore is that Clinton's cases were litigated in one case in federal court; and in another by a $70 MILLION investigation headed by a GOPPER bound and determined to find SOMETHING -- ANYTHING on Clinton. And HE even came up empty.

Trump and Moore DARE NOT go under oath like Clinton did to discuss allegations against them. 

No one is completely innocent. My point is that Clinton was investigated; he testified under oath; his accuser SWORE he didn't assault her; a federal judge dismissed the phony harassment charge.

Compare that to Moore and Trump who have NOT been questioned under oath about their alleged misconduct.